diesal cold starting
Submitted: Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 19:40
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brian
Hello just back
home from travelling through alpine country over
easter ,last night temperature dropped to the point where a glass of white wine left out froze solid plus all water etc anyway when we tried to start a gu 3litre and gq 4.2 diesals ,both would turn ower freelybut would not fire after many attempts.We pushed the vehicles into the sun and poured hot water over fuel pumps etc and away they went. Question is surely these vehicles should have started after all winter isnt really here yet,we want to go back in approx 4 weeks and not get stranded.We fuelled up in jindabine thinking we would get alpine blend preventing this.....Any ideas to improve starting?????
Reply By: Bilbo - Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 21:17
Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 21:17
Brian,
Two dabs at the glow plugs is a good idea, particularly with indirect injection diesel engines. I THINK the 4.2 is indirect injection - can't remember.
Otherwise get yourself a can of "Aerostart". It's an ether based spray that you spray into the air intake - the closer to the actual air filter, the better. i.e spraying it through the
snorkel is gonna take a longer to get through to the engine itself.
There are various stories about "Aerostart" damaging engines - but it's all BS. The engine was prolly "goosed" to start off with.
Use it - it works. It's what it was designed for.
Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Diesel Power - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 08:16
Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 08:16
We had another name for "Aerostart" when I was working in the colder climate areas many years ago before seeing the light and moving to QLD, we called it "Heroin" because once an engine had one sniff of it the bugger wouldnt start without it!!!!!
Cheers and Beers
Scott
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 10:02
Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 10:02
Back in the "bad old days" as an apprentice, we used to spray it on some poor unfortunate kids overalls and watch him keel over!!
Can't do that these days!
Bilbo
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Reply By: Member - Barry C (NT) - Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 21:29
Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 21:29
Hi if using aero start know the risks!!!!!
Too much can result in severe overspeed or high revs at cold start and no oil circulation = engine damage long term.
I used aerostart on 110 and 71 series diesels for years (only way they would start sometimes) and suggest IF using aerostart crank engine over first as someone commences to spray aero start into air intake judiciously.
Also if engine doesn't fire,,, stop,,, as oil is wiped off cylinder walls = more long term damage.
Barry
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 08:32
Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 08:32
Brian,
It was cold Monday morning. -5 at 6:30 where we camped.
I had the same problem trying to start the Troopie, I left the bonnet up all night and that did not help.
To get going I poured hot water over the fuel filters, this melted the wax and was then able to start.
Even glowing the plugs several times before trying to start didn't help.
When I go the the
Vic High Country next week I am going to keep the bonnet down and wrap the filters in a blanket.
The Alpine mix should be down here soon, I don,t think they expected it to be so cold this early in the year.
I hope the rest of the trip was good, and we might catch up again some where down there in the future and have a bit more time to talk.
Wayne
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Follow Up By: Kiwi Kia - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 11:05
Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 11:05
Don't forget to tie something to the steering wheel to remind you to remove the blanket under the bonnet ! You do not want an engine fire !!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin (NSW/ACT) - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:25
Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:25
Had the same problem with my Jeep at
Native Dog Flat - after getting down to -10 during the night it was still -7 at 7AM. Some hot water on the fuel filter solved the problem.
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Follow Up By: GJC - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:26
Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:26
Hi, I always added FUEL ADDITIVE like Power-Plus Deisel into the tank, which always works fine for the High Country.
I've been in minus temps where the two diesel disco's froze, but the troopy just started fine (bit rough to start - but soon warmed up).
The additive gives a higher temp point to create solids.
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