Removing sway on IFS Hilux
Submitted: Monday, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:28
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Smithy
Does anyone know what drama's could be caused by removing my front sway bar from an IFS Hilux?
I've removed mine and have found that the
suspension is X10 better and there is very little body roll ( I don't drive like a hoon anyway ), but before I test it off road I'd like to know if anyone else has removed thiers? and if there could be any problems ( apart form the supposed body roll ) with it removed?
Cheers
Reply By: flappan - Monday, Feb 10, 2003 at 10:53
Monday, Feb 10, 2003 at 10:53
Not on a Hilux, but on a Pajero.
HUGE increase in wheel travel as the wheels now work independantly was they were designed.
I didn't find a big difference in the onroad handling, so I'll stay with it a bit longer.
The one thing I have heard is a problem, but not yet experienced is that the CV boots tend to tear regularily, and more potential wear on the CV's themselves. Something to consider.
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Follow Up By: Smithy - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 07:12
Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 07:12
I can't belive they can actually sell these vechiles as IFS models.
I'd have to agree with the HUGE!! increase in wheel travel and smoother ride, and haven't found it a problem on-road either.
Thanks for the tip about the CV's, I'll buy some "heavy duty" CV's and replace them and keep the current ones as spares.
And would you belive it, I can'y get any information from Toyota about removing the front sway bar.
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Follow Up By: Flappan - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 13:29
Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 13:29
What was suggested to me was to use Suburu Liberty CV boots.
Apparently they are slightly longer then most CV boots and so tend not to crease and break as easily.
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Reply By: Suzuki Viagra - Monday, Feb 10, 2003 at 11:56
Monday, Feb 10, 2003 at 11:56
I've removed the swaybar on the Viagra and it lets the IFS work as IFS which is a bonus.
However there is a risk - due to the longer travel now available there is a increased risk of damage or wear to the front driveshafts and universals.
This greatly increases when you have long travel shocks or raised springs.
Universal joints are only designed to run properly within certain parameters - and you may be now exceeding those with these mods.
I'm prepared to take the risk, but you should know what a dead universal joint feels like and sounds like.....
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Reply By: bambi - Monday, Feb 10, 2003 at 20:16
Monday, Feb 10, 2003 at 20:16
G'day,
how about looking at swaybar disconnects and getting some limiting straps to prevent the
suspension travel going too far and damaging the CV.
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Flappan - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 13:33
Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 13:33
The thoughts good.
Couldn't put disconnects on the PJ, not sure of the Hilux, because there is no room for the sway bar to swing out of the way. Its basically all or nothing. However, there is a place in
Melbourne making a device called the "Articulator". Its for IFS vehicles (mainly for PJ's at present but would work on any in principle) whereby you cut the sway bar, fit basically a tube that has a pin. When the pin is pulled out the tube rotates and allows the wheels to act seperately, when the pin is returned, the swaybar comes back into effect.
As far as limiting straps go, that probably defeats the purpose of doing it anway. Not a bad thought though.
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Reply By: Smithy - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 20:16
Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 20:16
For those how are interested or own a Hilux, a mate and myself tackled Jacksons Lane too test our theory, and found that the vechicle without the sway bar tackled obsticles a little easier than the one with. ( Have more wheel travel, just have to check with the insurance that it's ok ) So tomorrow nite we remove his sway bar.
If anyone knows of a disconnect system, could they email me at MarkandElleSmith@AOL.com.au.
Cheers
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