roof sacks

Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 16:18
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hi all after the trip at easter i have got a question for you all concerning roof sacs and what they should be made of ;canvas is water resistant but my understanding is with stuff pushed up against the canvas water saturation limit is less.

Where as when using the pvc like the flooring in most tents no such problem so what is the best option

Regards BigFella
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Reply By: signman - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 16:41

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 16:41
I'd reckon a heavy duty vinyl..about 450gsm or a tad heavier.
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Reply By: Laura B - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:03

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:03
hey big fella....

we have a bushranger one and its great!! no leaking no dust no nothin - just our gear!!!

had to seal the seams and got a roaring headache from the potent glue but its worth it.....its canvas and really heavy duty!!

Laura B
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Follow Up By: big fella - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 19:09

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 19:09
Thanks for the reply Laura B. This has nothing to do with your reply but has to do with the trip gathering i unfortunately cant make it this time but are they open to families as i have a 3yr old and a dog that love camping and currently looking for other families to go away with

Regards BigFella
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Reply By: Brew69(SA) - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:10

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:10
Mines made out of rip stop and seems to be bloody good so far. Halls Canvas at Lonsdale in SA do a top job.
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Reply By: noddy - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:26

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:26
I have an older model busranger and it is shocking.
I did hear they have revised the material though so the new model may be better.
Mine has a course weave polyester'ish material with a plastic liner fused to it, sort of like what all the old sports bags were made of. After a few trips noticed that the lining was cracking and then peeling ( list like my old school bags used to do )

Still use it as a bag and for the price it has done a reasonable job really , but it's never been waterproof, even when new.

I have a mate who had one made up using the same heavy duty tarp material that you see on the sides of trucks. VERY WATERPROOF and almost indestructible.

Cheers,

Dale
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:34

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:34
Yep thats the stuff mine is made from. Cost about $300 from memory and was custom made for the rack with about 12 tie down points on the bottom and 12 more on the top. You get what u pay for with roof bags i think. And yes the bushrangers used to have a shocking reputation.
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Reply By: Member - uncle - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:35

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:35
Check this guy out,we have one of their canvas rubbish bags,top quality! Will be getting one of their roof sacks soon too. www.infrontcampinggear.com.au
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 00:16

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 00:16
Thanks Uncle I might order one from these guys for under $100 and it looks nice as well
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Reply By: Crackles - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:40

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:40
The heat sealed PVC bags are 100% waterproof in the material but have found that condensation often led to some of the gear being damp even when it didn't rain due to the bag not breathing at all. The true canvas bags don't have the condensation problem but things will get damp that are touching the top when it rains. The plastic coated canvas Bushranger make don't breath either & the one I had tore far too easy brushing under trees, the zip packing up after less than 10 trips. They do however have a fairly good storm flap with velcro & tie down straps. Almost all types suffer from rain being blown up under the flaps & in through the zip in certain circumstances.
I doubt any rack bag is 100% dust & waterproof unless it's made of Goretex with seam seal tape so you should always allow for this by packing key items in sailing or garbage bags.
After trying all 3 types I'm currently using a Southern Cross canvas bag. Very tuff, quality zip & custom made to fit the rack.
Cheers Craig...............
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Reply By: Member - Loco Locums - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:53

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 17:53
When we bought our new Kimberley Kamper last year, we also got one of their Rack Sacks....$250 from memory and its fabulous...It's made of the same very heavy canvas that the Kamper tent is made from. The full length zip is covered by a velcro flap and has a sewn on lift handle at each end as well as 2 velcro tie down straps at each end for securing to the roof rack. We have all our annexe in there and it has endured lots rain and everything is dry inside.

We also had an upholsterer make a rip stop vinyl bag for our mesh floor and spare table and it works a treat too....didn't use a zip, but a big fold over flap velcroed down., so it still breathes a little.

Both work well...no wet gear inside.

6 days to go and we're having 2 months in Central OZ.....who's a happy camper???

Cheers all
Rick & Julie
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 18:22

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 18:22
Bought mine about a year ago from Big W for $80, it's canvas with some sort of synthetic base. Have used it three times and once where it withstood two days of almost continuous heavy rain - everything inside was (to my surprise) bone dry.

Mike Harding
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Reply By: big fella - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 19:10

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 19:10
thanks for all the prompt replys let you all know what i decide

Regards BigFella
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Follow Up By: Laura B - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 20:13

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 20:13
Hey....of course kids are welcome!!! they are apart of the reason why we go 4wding...they love it!!!

we have a 2 1/2 yr old and 8month old both girls and both love camping and 4wding/dirt!!!!

another family that is coming have 2 kids a bit older...i think 12 and 10 and they are coming - they own fairly new prado and never been 4wding before.....

Laura
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Follow Up By: big fella - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 20:18

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 20:18
Laura B maybe next time my 3 yr old would love the company

Regards BigFella
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Follow Up By: Laura B - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 20:21

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 20:21
no probs...thats cool...another day hey!

Laura
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