Fluoro lights
Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 12:24
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Drew
I am running 2 of the (Piranha) 12v fluoro lights (11W) off a deep cycle battery in my trailer. When the battery is fully charged, they work fantastic but if the voltage on the battery drops below about 11.5, they flicker and wont start. Any ideas on this? Will a cranking power pack be any better, if so why? Is it a problem with the battery or a typical issue with fluor starters?
By the way I dont want to replace the lights, they are great.
Reply By: David - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 15:37
Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 15:37
NI Cad batteries like to be flattened.
LEAD Acid batteries don't. If you take a lead acid battery down below say 30 or 40% capacity you are seriously reducing it's life. 11.5 volts -if measured some hours after discharging- means your battery is basically flat(empty). Flatten it completely and some would advise you to chuck it- I wouldn't quite say that but it is not too far off the mark- atleast for a starting battery.
The "deep cycle" batteries you buy which look like a car battery are NOT really a true deep cycle battery at all, rather only a modified "starting battery"- they do tolerate deep discharge better than a starting battery but you should still avoid taking them too far down if you want them to last long. The true deep cycle batteries are very heavy and very expensive- ie:totally impracticle for your 4WD or caravan.
If you never flatten an automotive style "deep cycle" battery to more than say 40% capacity, and then recharge ASAP, it will last you a long time. (usually many, many years)
If you regularly flatten it completely, then look forward to replacing it in a very short time, and most companies will NOT honour a warranty claim if this is the case.
Summary- keep your lead acid battery as full as possible all of the time.
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Reply By: sean - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2003 at 20:51
Wednesday, Feb 12, 2003 at 20:51
Drew
I too have two lights like yours. One the same brand and one a Versalite which appears to be the same light to me.
My experience is very different to yours. I first read your post yesterday and have since gone out and tested my lights with a multimeter on 3 batteries.
I have never had problems getting the lights to start if there is reasonable power in the battery. The lights just become too dull and then I start using the next battery.
I use sealed lead acid batteries for the lights. Most are 17A/h and one is 34 A/h. These are the most robust of any battery I have ever used, and I have about 10 of them.
I just tested the light on 3 batteries.
Battery No 1 - 12.5 volts after sitting for 5 months idle. Light started after a few flickers.
Battery No 2 - 11.5 volts. Light startes as for battery No 1.
Battery No 3 - 8.5 volts. Light started after few attempts and after removing scum from terminals. Only one half of tube was lit.
Bright at the base then no light up near the bend of the tube. Voltage went down to 5.5 volts in 30 seconds. Removed light and put it back and same as before. It started but very dull. Removed light and voltage slowly started to climb back up.
For running fluro lights - I highly recommend these batteries.
Sean
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Follow Up By: Drew - Thursday, Feb 13, 2003 at 08:42
Thursday, Feb 13, 2003 at 08:42
Thanks Sean
I have just finished charging the battery last night after 36 hours on deep charge and another 36 hours on trickly charge. It got to 13.4 last night but has dropped to 12.4 overnight. I think it may be stuffed if it cannot hold the charge. What brand of light are you talking about. It appears that I have to get a new one anyway.
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Follow Up By: Sean - Thursday, Feb 13, 2003 at 11:12
Thursday, Feb 13, 2003 at 11:12
Drew
batteries are different brands. One is a GCB, one a century. Best are the 34 A/h made in Japan as these are used in electric wheelchairs. Great for running lights but no good for anything else.
Sean
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