mud tyres distance travelled

Submitted: Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 15:09
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Hi there just interested to hear from people who are running mud tyres fulltime on their vehicles , they kind of life the tyres have had , how many ks they have travelled and the condition they are in still. Thanks.
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 16:20

Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 16:20
Cooper STT.... 15000kms and about quarter worn...
Every day use plus trips...
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Reply By: David - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 17:30

Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 17:30
Hi, I am running 235/85 16 BFG Muds and i got 80,000 out off last set running 90% on road. also with 38 psi all round in 93 80 Series with about 3 ton all the time.
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Reply By: prado-wolf - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 17:33

Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 17:33
BFG MUDS 10000 onroad and 20000 offroad , about 60% down.
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Kerry W (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 19:41

Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 19:41
Hi All
Ive been keeping accurate records of tyre wear for BFG muddies on GQ and GU Patrols Good year MTRs on GU Patrol and Bridgestone Dueller MTs on GQ since 2002
Vehicles
1/ GU 4.2 Turbo Diesel with extra Boost and higher performance Injectors Extractors and S/T exhaust. Front Difflock rear LSD
2/ GQ 3 Lit Petrol Extractors S/T exhaust and slight modded head. open front diff rear LSD

Have recorded as wear per mm of tread over distance. All tyre started with 15 or 16mm tread and measured at specific points with vernier calipers from new for accuracy.

BFG Muddies (32x11.50 R15) on GQ Patrol = 7875 klm per mm wear (8mm of original 16mm of tread left after 63,000klm 70% onroad 30% offroad
inc very sharp rocks and sand

Bridgestone Dueller MT (32x11.50 R15) on GQ Patrol = 5996 klm per mm tread (12mm of original 15mm of tread left after 17998 klm 70% onroad 30% offroad

BFG Muddies (285/75X16) on GU Patrol 6000klm per mm tread 80% on road 20% offroad (inc very rocky terrain) (recorded over 21000klm)

Goodyear MTRs (285/75X16) on GU Patrol 4125 klm per mm tread 80% on foad 20% offroad (inc very rocky terrain)(tested over 33,000klm) (sold with 7mm tread left)

Observations since 2002 (Tyre at top is best (Least damage/best performance) in my opinion in category)

Best Mud Performance
Bridgestone MT
BFG MT
Goodyear MTR

Best Wet weather bitumen grip
BFG MT
Goodyear MTR
Bridgestone MT

Best Tread condition after abuse
Bridgestone MT
BFG MT
MTR

Longest lasting overall inc wear and damage
BFG MT
Bridgestone MT
MTR

Least Sidewall Damage
Goodyear MTR
Bridgestone MT
BFG MT

Id just like to add that this is my experience only the oldest tyres in the period were the MTRs I think wear and wet weather performance may have improved for them since we used them(newer soft compounds but I dont know for sure)

On the GU Patrol wears tyres faster than the GQ even though the GQ spins tyres more.

happy to answer any questions

Kerry
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Follow Up By: turbo 79series - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 21:11

Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 21:11
Thanks Kerry for that. I dont think i have ever been given so much information on tyres like you have just posted.You definitely know what you are talking about.I have had 2 sets or the bfg muddies found that my second set did not last as long as the first 70% road and 30% offroad as i use my vehicle for work.I have just bought another set so i should hope to get 70000 out of them .And by the way has anyone told you lately that you are HOT have a good weekend. Thanks.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Kerry W (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 00:24

Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 00:24
No dont get that compliment much but but thats cause - thats my wife in the pic - not me - she's hot - real hot (on top of big red)- in fact so hot she has to cool down like that.
Haha haha
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:13

Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:13
The MT/R's are an all round tyre not a muddie, the TG's are the mud offering from Goodyear.
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Follow Up By: Old Johno [NSW] - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:36

Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:36
Kerry,
Have you any comparison between BFG A/T & BFG M/T on blacktop (Wet & Dry). I amlooking at changing but am unsure as to blacktop grip
Thanks
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Follow Up By: turbo 79series - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 18:10

Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 18:10
Sorry Kerry for that mistake.
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Follow Up By: turbo 79series - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 18:14

Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 18:14
Gday kerry its me again any chance you could tell me what region that camping are is where you are set up on that bend near that creek .I could spend a month there.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Kerry W (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 23:32

Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 23:32
Hi Old Johnno , because of the softer silica compound on the Muddies they have quite good grip in the wet and dry comparable to the harder compounded ATs. I did not have the ATs them on my vehicle so I cannot say how close they are. (A travelling companion had them and they switched to BFG MTs and were impressed with the MTs grip)
I always slow down in the wet in a 4by no matter what tyres I run.
Have had reports of between 78000klm and over 100000klm for the BFG ATs but depends on weight of vehicle and the driving style.
Sorry turbo.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 20:50

Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 20:50
Goodyear MTR's on 79 series turbo, 50K clicks out of first set, on 70% off-road & 30% on-road, western Qld. Got less clicks out of later sets of MTR's, over the past 2.5 years. Find them good in the mud, with lower pressures. Chip a bit if hammered on gravel roads, at speed.(understandable!)
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Reply By: Member - Cocka - Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 21:55

Saturday, Apr 29, 2006 at 21:55
My first set of MTRs gave me good service, used about 50/50. The second set, (about 50% worn) have been really knocked about, chipping, wear etc and have not given nearly the same service as the first set.

I was unhappy with their safety on bitumen, particularly on the wet, as I was getting lock up and sliding too easily when braking, I sometimes have a 1.8T boat behind, so decided for safetys sake to swap to STT's for round town. Will refit the MTRs in the future when an appropriate trip comes up.
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Reply By: wheeleybin - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 08:53

Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 08:53
How do you put up with the noise on the road.I kept thinking I was in a bogie truck.
Ive just dropped from MT back to RV Tyres because the noise was driving me mad at highway speeds and I found them bad news in the wet on tar.
The way they whine it would have to limit the life of them.

Im thinking of putting them on my trailer that way I may not hear them or keep them only for off road.
Wheeley
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Follow Up By: Patrolman Pat - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:22

Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:22
"The way they whine it would have to limit the life of them."

You've met my kids then. ; )

Just turn up the stereo and you can't hear them. The tyres or the kids.

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Follow Up By: wheeleybin - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:42

Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:42
If they whine like the tyres or continually say "are we there yet" they would be out like the tyres.(Ha Ha)
Im half deaf and the noise must be just at the right wavelength to annoy me.
whawhawhawhahwawhawhawha.(say it fast)
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:30

Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:30
Can't wait for my MTR's to start whining. I was very dissapointed with how quite they are but I'm told they turn on at about 10k.
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Reply By: wheeleybin - Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 11:59

Sunday, Apr 30, 2006 at 11:59
What are they Mentally Tested Refugees and arent they in the back of your truck not on the wheels.
Wheeley
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 01, 2006 at 09:57

Monday, May 01, 2006 at 09:57
Drugs are bad Mmmm kay...
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Reply By: Doctor Evil (VIC) - Monday, May 01, 2006 at 09:05

Monday, May 01, 2006 at 09:05
ProComp Muds.

33*12.5*17.

45000Km.............approx. 40% worn. (7mm of wear of 17mm average) This has been over the last 15 months

40% dirt, 60% bitumen.

Should get another 40000 odd Km of usable wear (will leave 3-4mm)
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Reply By: Old Johno [NSW] - Monday, May 01, 2006 at 10:21

Monday, May 01, 2006 at 10:21
Turbo,
Is this the turbo from the Tassie 4WD Gathering
Regards
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