Help - Cold Coffee!

Submitted: Monday, May 01, 2006 at 21:38
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Hi, I was wondering if anyone can help me with this. I've just returned from a weekend at Dicky's Beach and had trouble with my gas bottle. Its a 1.25kg bottle and I have a single burner that connects directly to it. In the afternoon/night no probs, but in the morning it wont light??? The gas only stays alight while the lighter is on it. As soon as I take the lighter away it goes out. The first morning it was left out so I thought maybe dew, so the next night I brought it in to the tent, but no luck the next morning. It was only refilled last week. Wasn't overly cold at night. Anyone out there had similar problems or know of a solution.

Thanks

Simmo (the cold coffee drinker)
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Reply By: Kenell - Monday, May 01, 2006 at 22:42

Monday, May 01, 2006 at 22:42
Simmo,
It sounds like it was probably cold enough to effect the gas. Cold weather and LPG don't mix. If you try pre heating the jet before you light it might help but that becomes a bit like the hole in the bucket.
Good luck

Ken
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 01, 2006 at 22:56

Monday, May 01, 2006 at 22:56
have had similar with the aerosol can burners when the tin freezes.. The LPG Liquid will have frozen overnight.

stick it in the tent, in a jumper overnight, and all will be ok.
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 09:44

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 09:44
thought you put them near the fire or in your sleeping bag hahaha
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Reply By: Erwin - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 04:11

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 04:11
Simmo,

I have a gas ring that connects direct to a bottle. If I don't have anything sitting on top of it when I light it, it goes out. If I light it with something sitting on top it goes like a charm.
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Follow Up By: simmo1 - Sunday, May 07, 2006 at 19:08

Sunday, May 07, 2006 at 19:08
Thanks for the tip will give it a go next time

Simmo
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Reply By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 04:18

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 04:18
The many charms of gas! Any of the above could be the cause and I'll throw in another for good measure; moisture in the burner or jet. Take them out and dry them in hot sun or over a fire etc.
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Follow Up By: simmo1 - Sunday, May 07, 2006 at 19:11

Sunday, May 07, 2006 at 19:11
Bware

Thanks for your reply. I thought that might have been a problem as it was left outside overnight, and wouldnt work until the afternoon. So the next night I brought it into the tent but still the same problem. But I do have kids so anything may have happened!!

Simmo
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 08:34

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 08:34
It sounds like your burner is a high pressure type ie. it has no regulator and operates directly off the pressure in the gas bottle. This type of burner will not work well, or at all, at low temperatures. Try a Coleman low pressure burner, about $45 from Rays et al, and I think your problems will be solved :)

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: simmo1 - Sunday, May 07, 2006 at 19:13

Sunday, May 07, 2006 at 19:13
Thanks for the tip

Simmo
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 17:57

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 17:57
Dickies Beach near Coloundra?
Most probably only got down to +15 degrees at night at the worst.

Maybe a partly blocked jet and the cooler temp means less gas gets through.

Give the jet a clean first before checking the other valid replies.
Have had it happen before on our old companion stove.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 18:13

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 18:13
Agreed. At 15 deg C a high pressure burner should work OK.
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Follow Up By: simmo1 - Sunday, May 07, 2006 at 19:16

Sunday, May 07, 2006 at 19:16
Cheers for the tip, will give it a good clean. I live in Toowoomba so will be able to give a good test!

Thanks Simmo
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Reply By: AdrianLR (VIC) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 19:53

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 19:53
I go with the partially blocked jet theory. For some reason spiders seem to like to live in gas appliances (had them in 2 lights) so make sure there isn't a web in the tube between the bottle and the jet. It may also be the top of the jet that's dirty - spilt coffee or soup? If you can get to the jet, use a single strand of stranded capper wire to clean it.

Adrian
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