3.0 LTR NISSAN

Submitted: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 13:30
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can anyone tell me which year[s] of the patrol had the dodgy 3 ltr motors that were staved of oil & was it only in the patol or did the navara have the same problem as well thanks in advance!
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Reply By: Member - Craig D (SA) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 13:41

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 13:41
Early 2000 for the Patrol. I have not heard of the problem in the Navara.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew(WA) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 14:38

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 14:38
just make sure you get a series III onward. They came out very late 2001 or early 2002.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 14:55

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 14:55
just get a series 4.2 and never worry....
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Follow Up By: Member - Craig D (SA) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 15:03

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 15:03
Good one Truckster...I did!
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 18:17

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 18:17
Agree with you again on this Trucky. I don't know why anyone with knowledge of the 3lt failures would risk their hard earned on one, when for a few bob more they could get the same shape of vehicle with an ever reliable motor. Not that I'm biased or anything hahaha.

Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 19:30

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 19:30
it's another 7 G's difference on a new purchase price. that's why the 3.0l is attractive. When I bought mine they were still asking $40k for a series 2 3.0 and $50k for second hand 4.2l of a similar vintage oh and you had to pay stamp duty on top of that also!!! Or I could pay $48k drive away for a new 3.0l. Was a no brainer at the time.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Andrew (Bris) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 20:53

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 20:53
The 4.2 doesn't have an auto trannie.
Why tire both legs pressing the pedals.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 08:01

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 08:01
> it's another 7 G's difference on a new purchase price. that's why the 3.0l is attractive.

1) Theres a reason that its more expensive...

>Was a no brainer at the time
but its not anymore is it.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 08:21

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 08:21
and the reason it's more expensive is a combination of marketing/demand. Nissan don't really want to sell it anymore but they don't have a replacement. They would prob loose all big diesel sales to toyota if they dropped it.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: blown4by - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 12:18

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 12:18
Why would you want poor fuel economy and less pulling power?
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 18:07

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 18:07
blown4by,

I want poor fuel economy and less pulling power because...... long after the pulling power has stopped and the fuel economy is ZERO in a stffed 3lt I will still be tinkering along for many a year to come.

Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 21:28

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 21:28
Ignorance is bliss
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Follow Up By: blown4by - Friday, May 05, 2006 at 20:21

Friday, May 05, 2006 at 20:21
Must be a lot of ignorant people around then cos I see more 3 litres Patrols in the outback of WA than 4.2's and haven't seen one stopped on the side of the road yet. It's fine to be biased but there is more than one point of view so at least respect the other persons right to have one.Tunnel vision well that's another thing!
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Reply By: Leroy - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 15:05

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 15:05
dodgy 3l were up to around sept 2001. I always recomend to get a 2002 plated vehicle.

leroy
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Follow Up By: kesh - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 18:04

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 18:04
Friend has late 2002 which disintegrated at 70000km. (and I think that qualifies for s.3)
They are probably a very good motor (Renault, which also owns Mack trucks) but the electronic controls to turbo, injection system etc. are probably the Archilles heel in this Au. (or Pacific) set up.
kesh

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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 19:24

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 19:24
that is series 3. Anyway what happened with your mate getting on to Nissan to come to the party?

Leory
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Follow Up By: Outbacktourer - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 19:48

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 19:48
This engine is supplied BY Nissan TO Renault, in fact perhaps the only item BY Nissan in the technology sharing agreement.

IMHO the nature of the failures point to overfueling and/or overboost. S3 had different loom and ECU but it would be advisable for every 3.0Di to fit at least a boost gauge and probably a EGT Gauge so in case something plays up (like the MAF sensor) you know about it before the engine is damaged.
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Follow Up By: kesh - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 07:56

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 07:56
Leroy. The motor is being replaced by Nissan (the dealer says its a new one, but who knows) and Mal. has to pay for the labour plus "consumables".
I did post this on the previous but its probably hidden in the ruck by now.
kesh
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 08:23

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 08:23
Kesh,

I can't remember how old it is but I supose it's a reasonble outcome. It's probably being rebuilt which if done correctly is as good as a new short motor.

Leroy
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Reply By: angler - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 22:27

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 22:27
Look for a series three that has removable cup holders. The early series three did not allow the cupholders to be removed. Mine is early 2003, march I think.

Pooley
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Reply By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 22:51

Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 22:51
2000 to 2004 are all problems.
Be wary.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 07:55

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 07:55
u idiot.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 08:01

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 08:01
jesus 120, you will get tarred and feathered saying things that people dont want to hear.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 08:17

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 08:17
it's a gross generalisation not something I don't want to hear. so suddenly in 2005/6 everything is now ok? that's what's being implied. Mind you the same engine is used as in the s3.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 10:07

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 10:07
Do you work on them and have 1st hand experience?
No I thought not.
Well I do and I have done the research and deal with these things everyday so don't say its a generalisation until you have the experience I have with them.
I'm not being derogative, just spelling my experience which is hearsay on this forum.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 10:28

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 10:28
No i thought not? How can you answer for me? I work on mine all the time and assist others also! Please enlighten me as to why post 2004 everything is ok as I asked in my previous reply if you have done the research?

Leroy
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Follow Up By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 12:13

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 12:13
I am not going to get into a slinging match on here and if I rememer correctly you were the first one to jump down my throat.
Maybe the 2004 on will be crap to but its too early to tell.
In my experience some are good and some aren't.
Either way they aren't built to last in the engines, why, I don't know. Maybe design flaw, maybe due to the sulphur in the fuel content as scottcamp researched.
All models have problems.
Look at the current Prado that cracks the inner guards near the fire wall. Toyota deny its their fault, bull bar and suspension manufacturers deny its theirs. Maybe its a design flaw in these too, AND I OWN A 2005 PRADO.
Getting cranky doesn't resolve to the fact that there was/is, what ever, a problem with them and their reputation is damaged as is the 100 series torsion bar problem, as is the prado inner guard crack problem.
I am not going to justify to this forum because as soon as you do, you get reply's from people stating "another 2nd and 3rd hand comment".
I work on them and have been through the engine dilemas as well as many other expensive problems on these and many other makes and models including TOYOTA.
Its great to have a debate and I hope there is no love lost or grudges held as I have said before, EVERYTHING ON THIS AND ANY OTHER FORUM IS HEARSAY UNTIL YOU EXPERIENCE IT FIRST HAND AND THEN IT BECOMES FACT. Store everything you read in the back of ones mind for future reference.
Cheers
120scruiser
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 00:22

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 00:22
Watching with interest as i believe now the series III will be coming up to higher mileages we may see a few go in that series. We have just done 18,000 kms in ours (Jan 2002), much of it over mountainous or hilly country - just over the 100,000 when we left, towing a heavy caravan most of the time and I'm pleased to say still going well. Our Lancruiser has done over 300,000 and i doubt the Patrol will get to that without a heart transplant. Never heard of anyone having a problem with the Navaras, and i believe the 'over boosting' theory has more credibility than the size of the oil sump.
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