Buying biodiesel

Submitted: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 21:43
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I am looking into trialling biodiesel in the hilux. With the servo at Marrickville closed it looks like a trip to Newcastle will be necessary.

Problem is they only sell minimum 200L. I am presuming that I need to provide my own drums. Where do I get 200L fuel/oil drums from? Any idea on their cost?

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Reply By: Member- Rox (WA) - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 23:15

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 23:15
Go to a Printing company in you area and ask for an old 1 that was used for IPA or alchole as it will be very clean. You shouldn't have to pay for it as they have to dump it.
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Reply By: Redback - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 08:47

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 08:47
I tried Biodiesel, what i found was that i dropped alot of power and also my fuel economy when up, for me thats not a good thing as i tow a heavy campertrailer and going up hills i was using a lower gear than before, so i stopped using it.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 16:41

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 16:41
Hi baz, I think u will find mate that the biodiesel u used was not 100%.
That service station where u got it from was not selling the best quality boidiesel.

My cousin tried it too and his 4b went backwards on it too, he used more fuel and lost power too. So we took some out of his tank and compared it to mine, different colour between the too, his looked darker, mine was gold in colour. But since Marrickville is gone, Ive gone back to toxic diesel.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 17:57

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 17:57
I actually found the same results initially using B100, I reset my ECU and she's doing better economy than I used to get on petro diesel now. Go figure. Power's up and smoke is down too. I'm saving over $60 per month on fuel just driving the kids to school and going to uni (everything else we use the wife's company car for).

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 19:27

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 19:27
the colour of Biodiesel will vary and is no indication of the quality.

The colour depends on the feedstocks (ie. canola oil, peanut oil, waste vegetable oil, pork fat etc.) that it can be legitimately made from.

Ciao for now
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Reply By: adamj1300 - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 13:07

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 13:07
what is the price that u guys are buying the biodiesel at?
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Reply By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 14:43

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 14:43
I have been running B100 Biodiesel from SAFF in SA for about 60K's now - about 80% of the time.

Power and efficiency have been pretty much the same. The environment is much better and it smells sweet.

Can't help you on where to get 200l drums though - try the www.biofuelsforum.com and see if you get some help there.

The power problems occasionally reported may be attributable to clogged up fuel filters with the fossil fuel sediments washed out of the system by the Biodiesel.

Ciao for now
Andrew.
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Reply By: Geoff M (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 14:49

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 14:49
Hi mikeyandmary,
Andrew at Rutherford has clean drums for sale.
Give him a ring before you go to site and arrange a time for the fill.
All you need to supply is the transport and the cash.

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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 16:42

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 16:42
Hi Geoff,
Do you know what price he sells bd100 for please mate.
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Follow Up By: Geoff M (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 16:58

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 16:58
Hi cokeaddict,
Last price I heard was $1.10/litre that was about 4 weeks back.

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Reply By: Peter 2 - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 19:15

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 19:15
A better bet is to go to the nursery/stock feed places that sell the blue 120l plastic drums. We use them and they are much easier to manhandle when full.
They are impervious to the biodiesel too, cost around $10 -15 depending on where you get them.
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Reply By: hoyks - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 20:56

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 20:56
Don't get a galvanised (zinc coated) drum as the Bio D eats the zink off rather quickly. Just a plain old painted oil drum is best.
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 21:14

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 21:14
On the subject of 200L drums, here is something that may interest you. We have friends here that have houseboats and they fuel these things from a trailer of 200L drums. Recently they were advised by the local authorities - Council I think - that they were no longer allowed to do this as they were not qualified to transfer such large quantities of fuel without approriate satety training and so-on. Funny thing is that they can do it if they use 20 L drums as these are not considered "commercial quantity" I think the local servos were instructed that they cannot allow people to fill the 200L drums.

Basically this seems to be a plan to try and force them to use the local tanker delivery bloke who charges like a wounded bull. Gives them a choice of making an easy task more difficult by using smaller drums or paying more for fuel.

Wonder if any of these type Nazi's will be onto you if you start carrying bio around in 44's on the trailer. Wonder what the regs are about how much fuel you can carry before it is considered dangerous???

Muddy
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Reply By: Motherhen - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 22:19

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 22:19
I note that in WA some Gull servos sell a 20% biodiesel mix.

"BioDiesel now available

On 3 April 2006, Gull Petroleum started selling B20 fuel (80% diesel, 20% bio-diesel) at a number of their service stations."
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