Bullbar / Winch - Combination
Submitted: Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 14:27
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Dirk 32
First of all I need to say that I find this
forum extremely useful and many of my questions were answered by browsing through the different topics. Here is one more...
As many of you have many years of experience with different types of equipment, I would just like to hear your opinions.
I am looking for the 'best' (as if you can ever say that) bullbar/winch-combination for a LC 100 GXL. For the bullbar I was looking at TJM or ECB and for the winch I wanted to go for a WARN. Do you have any positive or nebative
feedback on any of these items?
Talking about
winches: I estimate the total weight of my vehicle will be around 3600-3800 kg (I know, that's heavy) and was wondering a 9000lbs rated winch would be sufficient or if I have to get a 9500 lbs or even higher. What are your opinions on this.
Once again, thank you very much in advance,
Dirk
Reply By: Member - Duncs - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 14:38
Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 14:38
Dirk,
As you can see from my rig
Pic I have a GU I also tow a trailer off road. So far taxes and three children have conspired to keep me winchless, but trust me I have looked.
The decision I made was to fit an ARB bar which is in place and in that I want to mount a Warn HS9500. I have been advised that this is a little light for my rig but this is the reasoning behind my decision.
The HS9500 is much lighter than the 10,000 or 12,000 lb winch that has been recommended so it will put less strain on the
suspension and have less effect on handling. The line speed for the HS is almost double the 10000 and more than double the 12. Most of the time you don't get bogged to the eyeballs and really just need a little help to get out, the 9500 will do that. When you are stuck to the eyeballs you can put a snatch block in and have the equivalent of 19000lb pull.
You lose heaps of time pulling line out and then winching the slack cable back onto the drum. With the high speed winch (HS9500) this time loss is halved.
So I think the HS9500 is the go it is lighter which makes it nice for the car to carry and in 99% of cases is quicker which should please SWMBO.
Now I know you will get other opinions but thats
mine
Duncs
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Reply By: atoyot - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:31
Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:31
I went for a 12000lb Warn. Yep they're heavier, but I'd rather cop a weight penalty and have a bit more pulling capacity up my sleeve. I have a live axle 100, not IFS, so the weight over the front end is not as much as issue as it might be with IFS.
Mine weighed 3.5 tonne, with half fuel and no passengers but
well prepared, so at that weight, I'd rather something that is less likely to stall.
Snatch blocks will help smaller
winches, but they also work the same on larger ones. A serious bogging in sand may even require a triple line pull, and in that situation, specially if there is a tide coming in, the extra pull of a larger winch might make the difference. It's just a matter of weighing up the potential situations you might find yourself (or more likely, someone else) in.
Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 16:57
Friday, May 12, 2006 at 16:57
If you are planning to get a Warn winch then ARB bull-bar would be the best
as they are designed to take Warn
winches. Something like Warn 9500XP or
Warn 9500HS would be the best in terms of speed. If you are planning to do
any water crossing then I would recommend to get the winch waterproofed as
well. Also there are new ARB shara bull-bar for 100 Series
on eBay at the moment so might be worth a look...
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