Rear carrier number plate assembly

Submitted: Friday, May 12, 2006 at 22:24

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Footloose

I finally decided to install the rear tyre carrier. Its been in my shed for around 4 years (dont ask how I used to carry 2 spares, tubes etc without a rack :) . So, mission completed until I realized I had forgotten to relocate the number plate. So, off to an aftermarket mob and "yes we can get one, no light, $77). No thanks, so I accumulate the bits (ha ha) and away I go.
This isn't going to work. It's not a boat, I need to fix it to the carrier. Hmm...how do the Kmar people do it ? Can't find any pix. Can't find any prices of the Kmar one (and not sure it will fit anyway).
Can't do the shopping tomorrow, the vehicles illegal....no worries, TIE the number plate on, it will do for a quick daylight trip...yes officer I have my excuse all prepared.
I guess I need some visual details (and possibly pricing) on a commercial one (that way I know it wont disintegrate on those holes and corros).
Could any kind, knowledgeable soul point me in the right direction ?

PS I know its a vehicle post, but the vehicle does get out there.

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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 22:32

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 22:32

What sort of vehicle?
I have dual carrier from Opposite Lock and the number plate re-located onto the new steel bar, immediately above the box tow hitch.
If you only have one wheel at the back, can't you mount the number plate on the back door and install a simple number plate light like they have on a trailer?
Cheers
Roachie

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 22:45

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 22:45

Oops, sorry about that chief :)
Ok its an 80 series with barn doors, carrier on passengers side beacuse there's a whopping great HF autotune carrier on the other side. Don't really want to drill holes in the vehicle...well any more that is....if I can get away without em.

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 23:10

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 23:10

Okay......if you don't want any new holes etc and are hell-bent on mounting it in conjunction with the spare wheel, suggest you need to get a Kaymar bracket (or make one similar).
It seems to consist of a triangular plate (made of about 1/4" steel plate) with a hole in each corner to match every second wheel stud, so it will attach to the 3 wheel studs that hold the wheel onto your carrier. It has a square box-section welded to it (about 4 inches long I'd estimate) with a rectangular plate of steel, the same size as your number plate, welded to the opposite end of the box. This plate is about 3/16" thick and is what you attach your number plate to. It also has a number plate light/s above etc.
The wiring for this would need to have a plug, so it can be disconnected for when you need to remove the spare wheel. The other end of the cable would need to be cable-tied to the swing-arm and then be joined into the existing tail-light wire set-up.
Cheers
Roachie

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 09:01

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 09:01

Thanks for that, sounds like this is going to end up bigger than Ben Hur !

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 10:02

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 10:02

as below, mine has no square box section.

The plate is like the normal plate on the forward facing side - a long rod piece with the locking ring at the end.

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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 06:54

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 06:54

Footie,

Have a kaymar wheel carrier, fitted to 80 series GXL. Original supplied n'plate bracket fitted where the original plate went, and over a number of years, vibrated on our roads enough to bugger the tailgate.

Bought the tyre mounted bracket, and have fitted it, without drama. Amazing how the girl @ kaymar can quote those prices, without even catching her breath, or at least gagging a little.

Plate looks better up on the wheel, but the one effort to wire up plate light was quickly smashed by helpful souls, with pair of side cutters, as they assisted the Bride, to change a tyre. Can send you some photos tonight, or tomorrow if you wish.

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 09:03

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 09:03

Bob, that would be just the ticket ! I know that it's a PITA for you but I guess thats exactly what I need. Amazing how something so apparently simple can turn into a production.
Do you want an email addy to send em to ?
TIA

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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 21:47

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 21:47

No worries, Footie. Bit late now, but will take a couple in the morning, and send down. Will use the email addy off your web site?

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Reply By: Peter 2 - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 07:52

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 07:52

Another idea is to wire the new number plate light up on the spare tyre bracket to a trailer plug which can plug into the trailer socket, easy to unplug when removing the spare and can be also unplugged when the trailer is required.
The trailer has its own number plate light when it is attached and the one on the truck isn't required.

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 08:59

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 08:59

Yes, I'd considered that, good idea thanks.

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Reply By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 09:58

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 09:58

I've just used an inexpensive Narva plug to enable it to be easily pulled off/put on without upsetting the wiring.

The plate holder is obscenely two piece - one piece that needs to be adjusted depending on how wide your tyre is - I have 285/75/16's and it is at maximum extension.

There are still really too many plugs but in about 40,000 k's it has not come free so I guess it works fine.

The Kaymar day-light robbery though, is a bit hard to handle at times.

Ciao for now
Andrew.

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 10:19

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 10:19

Fantastic, thanks Andrew much appreciated. It's certainly a well thought out bracket, isn't it ? Not sure I want to get a price on it from Kaymar :((

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Reply By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 12:08

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 12:08

From memory I got it down to about $100 as it was in stock at ARB and they had messed me about a bit initially.

INcludes the light but not the wiring

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 12:24

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 12:24

Thanks for that. Gives me a ball park figure to start enquiring, much appreciated.

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Reply By: Richard & Leonie - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 18:12

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 18:12

I have just had a Kaymar wheel carrier fitted to my Cruiser, (too busy to do it myself and fitting cost was negligable.) I had not even considered the fact the rear plate and rear lights would be obscured. When I picked the car up the number plate had been located to the driver side onto an L shaped bracket fixed to the bumper with a "trailer" light each side. The trailer lights repeat lights, brakes and indicators. I was told it was a standard Kaymar setup. I do not carry the wheel all the time because it is easier to open the top tail gate. At night the Cruiser looks like a Christmas tree with all the lights.

Richard

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Reply By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 20:18

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 20:18

Easy to knock up the bracket yourself.

I made my own wheel carrier for the Hilux, and eventually welded up my own plate holder similar to the kaymar jobs. some steel plate with some 20x40 RHS coming out and then another bracket hanging off the end that the plate and light bolted to. Ran the wiring back down and used a trailer plug and just pluged it into the trailer socket to grab power (my wheel carrier was removable - so needed a temporary wiring setup)

the bracket only took me a couple of hours mucking around. Even gave it a nice fancy rounded triangular shape. Looked and worked a treat.

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Reply By: Geoff M (Newcastle, NSW) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 12:46

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 12:46

Jim,
A Kaymar tip,
If you want Kaymar bits and pieces ring Kaymar direct and talk to Jenny.
I was quoted $200.00 by a well known Newcastle 4wd Store for a genuine Kaymar bolt kit to mount my towbar come rear wheel carrier to the Troopy. (No it didn't include fitting, just a bag of bolts) There reason? "Kaymar are trying to convince you to buy new bars not secondhand"
Thought bullchit and rang Kaymar.
That'll be $29.00 including the instruction sheet plus $11 for overnight freight, yes we can do credit card over the phone.

Guess who sold me the bolt kit!

Geoff.