Theft of lightforce Spotties
Submitted: Sunday, May 14, 2006 at 21:33
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Muzzgit (WA)
I'm thinking about getting some 170 Lightforce but I have concerns that they are easily stolen.
Have they come up with an anti theft system yet?
Obviously putting a small padlock through the main bolt will help, but the other method of stealing Lightforce spotties is a bit of a worry.
Cheers,
Muzz
Reply By: Muzzgit (WA) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 01:27
Monday, May 15, 2006 at 01:27
I have had Rallye 4000 before, about 14 years ago and found them to be very good. The new 4000 FF have a focussing mechanism in the base which makes aiming them up/down & side/side quite easy, which is one of the things I don't like about my Cibie Oscars. To aim the Cibies I have to lie on the ground at the front of the car and reach up under the bullbar, and as soon as I undo
the nut they drop forward. Major PITA
Depending on whether the car is loaded or if we have the camper on, the lights are quite often shining on the road or up in the trees, and the idea of quickly pulling over and adjusting the spotties easily is quite appealing to me.
Also, in the 4WD monthly comparison, the 4000 FF were runner up to the Lightforce XGT. Yes the XGT blew away everything with a halogen globe but they will not fit on my bullbar, so they are out of the equasion.
Basically, the Lightforce 140/170/240 are easily ripped off, which to me counters the fact they are a good light.
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Follow Up By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 08:19
Monday, May 15, 2006 at 08:19
What bullbar have you got on 'Trol?
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Follow Up By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 08:21
Monday, May 15, 2006 at 08:21
on THE, THE
DAMN Monday mornings
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit (WA) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 20:26
Monday, May 15, 2006 at 20:26
Sam, it's a standard Nissan type ally bar, but powder coated instead of the naff looking shiny type. On older style bullbars you can get to the bottom nut while standing in front of the car, but not this one.
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Follow Up By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 20:28
Monday, May 15, 2006 at 20:28
I was just thinking from fitting the XGT's point of view. I have the factory steel bar on a series II GU and was told it could't be done, but by reversing the mounting bracket on the light, they fit with heaps of clearance
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit (WA) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 20:43
Monday, May 15, 2006 at 20:43
That's interesting. I recon if I get XGT I will only need one, and put a lens on the front to spread the light out a bit. Also the XGT can't be unsrewed like the other type Lightforce.
That will also guarantee decent airflow through the radiator.
Cheers,
Muzz
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Follow Up By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 20:49
Monday, May 15, 2006 at 20:49
i have a couple up front of mine (4.2TD) and it hasn't had any impact on temp (towing or otherwise). but one with a combo or even spread cover will work a treat.
but yeah, its amazing how much extra room you get from reversing the mounts. it moves them forward that much more such that it clears the main tubing. I can get my hand between the light and the bar without any issues
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit (WA) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 21:15
Monday, May 15, 2006 at 21:15
My only concern with that is how far out they protrude. Any little acident means the first point of impact will be the spotties?
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Follow Up By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 21:50
Monday, May 15, 2006 at 21:50
Mine would be at least 2" back from the from of the bar
its not a massive amount of difference, just enough to allow them to fit. i can take some photos tomorrow if that will help with your decision making
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit (WA) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 23:36
Monday, May 15, 2006 at 23:36
Sam, the Ally bars don't have as much room for spotties as the steel one!
Have a close look next time your near one, you'll see what I mean.
I have seen the same ally bar as mine with XGT's and they sit out front quite a bit. I have bid on a set of Rallye 4000FF on Ebay, so we will see what happens.
I know I have said in the past that I would rather support the local bloke, and I usually do, but I couldn't resist putting a bid on, and if I get them it will be just under $100 saving.
If I don't get the Rallye's I'll go and check out some XGT and see if they'll fit.
Some of them on Ebay at agood price too.
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Reply By: Muzzgit (WA) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 20:32
Monday, May 15, 2006 at 20:32
The way Lightforce spotties are made, you can focus them by rotating the body in or out, like a Maglite torch.
Just incase everyone doesn't know and didn't pay much attention to what was said above, you can walk up to a car with lightforce spotties and simply UNSCREW THE MAIN BODY UNTIL IT FALLS OFF.
AND MY QUESTION IS, HAVE THEY FIXED IT YET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: blown4by - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 14:38
Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 14:38
The Rallye 4000's have provision for two additional bolts (that the instructions recommend be fitted but are not supplied with the lamps) 1. Fit the lamps as normal with the centre bolt & nut. 2. Get a piece of 50x10 flat bar about 100 long & drill or oxy cut a hole in the centre just large enough to go over
the nut from underneath (but not large enough to get a socket through the hole) 3. Drill two holes in the flat bar to line up with the other two lamp mounting holes and secure the flat bar in place using cup head bolts from the bottom and fit the nuts from the inside the lamp body. It's a tight fit & if the bolts are too long they will foul the lamp lens but it can be done as I have done it with mine. A tube spanner to do the internal nuts up will help and you have may to "relieve" a bit of the cast ribs at the bottom of the lamp housings with a rotary burr or similar to provide extra clearance.
Another way to do it is to make up a "hinged" flat bar and after you do the lamp nut up you lock the hinge with a padlock. Works on the same principle as a hasp and staple and prevents access to
the nut at the bottom of the lamp.
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