What speed am I doing with larger tyres
Submitted: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 13:21
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Zapper
Hoping someone can help me with this. We have a 105 series landcruiser that we bought that was fitted already with larger tyres. It has 285/ 75R16 on it. Anyway couple of weeks ago the other half got flashed but a multanova (dirty thieving revenue raising device) in a 100 zone, she said she was absolutely certain the speedo said 100 or just under, anyway fine arrived saying she was doing 110. My question is would the speedo be 10% out by having the 285 tyres on it? Dont have a GPS to
check it with.
thanks...
Reply By: Member - Nutter (QLD) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 13:27
Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 13:27
Gidday Zapper , your speedo could quite easily be out 10%, think the LC 105 came out fitted standard with 265 x 70 r 16, 285s are about 10% larger rolling diameter.
I am pretty sure you can have it corrected, I'm sure someone on this
forum will know, or just ahve a search.
See ya
Guy
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 00:36
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 00:36
775mm vs 830mm or about 7% larger tyre, theoretically, however the ACTUAL tyre diameters are what you need. Given most speedos are a couple of km/h under (reads 100, is 98), you may
well have been done by the tax collecters at 104-105.
I would question your ticket or your wife, one of them ain't telling the truth....
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Reply By: Scoey (QLD) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 14:01
Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 14:01
Going from the standard 265/75-16's to 285/75-16's gave me a 3.7% difference on my 80 Series according to the Tire Size Calculator but I guess it all boils down to what the original tire size was, what the accuracy was originally like on the speedo and probably even the brand of tire you have - I've heard of two different brands of tire labelled as the same size actually being different in size.
Question: If you can only be found guilty of an offence to the degree that you are aware you are commiting the offence (ignorance of the law aside) and you buy a vehicle with a Safety Cert or RWC with larger than standard tires and aren't aware of this fact, is this grounds to appeal? They may make you get the speedo recalibrated instead which could be more exxy than the ticket but so might not be worth it! ;-)
Cheers
Scoey
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Reply By: disco driver - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 14:44
Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 14:44
Hi Zapper,
Are you aware that the ADR's for vehicles allow for a 10% variation in speedo accuracy when on new original tyres.
That is deemed acceptable by the various state authorities but the so called "Justice Depts" wont accept that as a valid reason if the "non-revenue raising speed cameras" take your picture.
Having said all that there are two ways of checking your speed.
1. A fairly long set of mathmatical calculations.
2. Buy or borrow a GPS and
check the speedo against that.
Good Luck
Disco
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Follow Up By: Jugs - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 15:05
Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 15:05
Zapper
I have the 285/75/R16 on my GQ patrol Ti (on when bought same as you) I did the long Cal from the original 275/65/R16 and got 7%. you can get a after market plastic cog to correct the spedo sender. I haven't botherd just call it 10% accross the board for safty margin and subtract on the fly.
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Reply By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 02:56
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 02:56
Are you confused yet Zapper? If not, we haven't done our job properly ;)
If the GPS option isn't an option, then the tyre calculator already mentioned is a good guide. But..... there are all the other factors like massed produced speedos(also known as dick-stickers LOL), different diameters for different brands and also the diameter changes with wear (which hasn't been mentioned yet). If you use larger diameter tyres(which alot of us do) and are worried about speeding fines just drive 10kms less than the speed limit according to your speedo; that's the simple answer.
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