Is Ghost Rocks still haunted?

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Has any one camped out at Ghost Rocks north west from Menzies and heard the noises at night time as described in the book "The Beckoning West" (Story of HS Trotman and the Canning Stock Route) The book is a great read, and it is always nice to be able to put some of these places into a trip when planning
Thanks Matt
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:16

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:16
Couldn't locate Ghost Rocks on my map but will be in that general area sometime in August so might check it out.

There is a 'Singing fence' between Sandstone and Leinster, which we witnessed last year.

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Follow Up By: Member - Matt- Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:39

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:39
Ghost Rocks is found about 25km from Menzies on the Sandstone road, which puts you south of Lake Ballard. The noise made at the rocks resembles the sound of a man coming into camp at night on a horse... so with your singing fence and my phantom rider, I think we got a road show Willem!
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:55

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:55
Ghost Rocks

29° 33' 27.3600" S
120° 53' 37.1400" E

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 19:28

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 19:28
There seems to be a bit of unexplained noises/lights/movement over in the West. I always wonder how much they've had to drink beforehand :))
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 19:40

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 19:40
The weirdest things I have ever seen/heard in WA are Eastern States tourists:)...further supported by reading this forum:))))
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 19:45

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 19:45
Explorer, what do you expect us to say when confronted by a beach 3000km wide ? :)))))
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:04

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:04
Hey Willem, "There is a 'Singing fence' between Sandstone and Leinster "

Does it know many songs ? :))))))
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:07

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:07
Does it know many songs ? :))))))

depends on how much of willems rocket fuel has been devoured the night before
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:14

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:14
You're not confusing the "singing fence" with the "yodeling fence" are you?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:38

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:38
or the barfing wife....
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Reply By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:30

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:30
Haven't read the book, nor can I find it but sounds fascinating. I can see a spook tour coming up for Willem :)) Personally I think there's life , Jim , but not as we know it ............
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Reply By: Exploder - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:53

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:53
Yes, LOL

Speaking of the Weird chit that happens in the Bush.

Had a moment of fear on the last trip.

A Mate had a black jacket on but had a white Jumper on underneath it and he had the Jumper Hood pulled up on his head.

Anyway he had gotten up for a Piss and I got up not realising he had left, I turned around to walk over to the car to grab another Beer, when I spotted what looked like a Glowing White Ball Hovering/ swaying in the air over buy some scrub (Light from the camp fire + the light on the Camp table helped with this effect)

Now I had had a few beers at this point LOL, so I took another step or 2 before i froze for a second and looked harder and F**k me dead it started moving towards me!!, At that point I said What the bleep is that!! Which got the attention of the others who turned around. Then he got closer to the light and I could make out his figure and realised What/Who it was.

But it had me Going for a Second I was a split second away from making a dash to gab the Gun LOL
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 19:26

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 19:26
Now you know why I'm not keen on camping with guns :)))
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:01

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:01
Because they are safely stored out of site Unloaded!! With the ammunition kept hidden away from the item in question, Broken in 2 or with the bolt removed in some instances.

Regardless of opinions on what people think about them I will normally take one away on trips as it is a survival tool.

Have put 2 injured animals out of there pian in the last year or so, and it’s a lot kinder/ quicker this way than with a blunt object or knife

On the above Occasion that night we were on Privet property (Station) With manager’s permission so was not so anal over it being overly secure Was still secure tho!!.

I know what you mean but, have been with people on a Farm once and have felt a little uneasy the hole time in regard’s to safety.

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:06

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:06
There was a smilie behind my post. You're either a gun person or you're not. I'm not.
Know what you mean about being uneasy. Was once a passenger going down a very big mountain in a ute where the driver had a loaded rifle in the front with us, in case of "bunnies". Notice I said *once*. :)))
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:20

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:20
>Regardless of opinions on what people think about them I will
>normally take one away on trips as it is a survival tool.

There is a huge amount or irrationality against firearms - usually from people who are not familiar with them. This irrational fear rarely presents itself to those same people with knives or "blunt objects". Such is the nature of irrational fears. Once one understands the habits of snakes or estuarine crocodiles one becomes less afraid of them.

Footloose: if I discovered I was in a (normal) vehicle with a loaded firearm I would tell the driver to unload it or I would get out and walk. Some people are irresponsible with pretty much anything. I have been a passenger in cars driven by reckless people but I don't have a fear of cars.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:25

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:25
Mike , a firearm is an inate object. I am unfortunately extremely familiar with both their use, and the effects of their misuse. I've seen enough GSW to last me a lifetime, thanks.
It is not the object that I worry about, it is having them in the wrong hands while I'm within several km.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:43

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:43
You can't control what happens some kilometers away from you so why worry about it? That is the type of irrational fear I was raising.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:50

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:50
I can't control what the driver coming the other way is going to do either, but I can minimize the potential for disaster by being aware and alert to the possibilities. This isn't irrational fear, it's common sense.
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:57

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:57
Yep got the Smile Footloose< Just thought I would clarify the situation and my attitude towards storage and use, as I didn’t what to come across as a unsafe dangerous person.

I don’t normally talk about Gun’s/ Shooting except with close friends, it’s like a safety thing you don’t what it getting around the grape vine that so and so has this and that weapon and I am by no means a gun nut.

The forum’s not such a big deal as I am just a Screen name on hear but am still mindful about what I say.

Regards.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:58

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:58
Aaah so that's the story behind Ghost Rocks. Some nutter was driving recklessly down the side of the rock with a loaded firearm in the vehicle. The firearm discharged and killed a bunny. So it's the bunny's ghost we hear at Ghost Rocks.

Be afraid, be very afraid :)))))))))))))))))))
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:00

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:00
Gramps, thank you. You made me laugh out aloud. :))
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:03

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:03
Exploder, doesn't matter what I say, someone will take exception to it . I don't take exception to others, if I think its BS then I just read the next post....mostly :)))
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:06

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:06
Footy,

No problem mate. If I can make one person laugh, I've had a good day :)))
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:09

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:09
>I can minimize the potential for disaster by being aware
>and alert to the possibilities.

How are you going to do that Footloose?

If the driver coming the other way is drunk or about to have a heart attack there is nothing you can do about it.

We're all "aware of the possibilities" - that is common sense but being concerned about them is not: because there is nothing we can do about them. Better to just live life on a day-to-day basis and not worry about firearms or crocodiles or earthquakes or ...?

And to go back to your original statement:
>Now you know why I'm not keen on camping with guns :)))

What do you think they're going to do? Get up and shoot you in the night?

I go camping with a chainsaw and I'm a lot more concerned about that than I am about my 22. Don't worry about objects - worry about people and choose, carefully, who you camp with irrespective of whether they have a firearm, chainsaw, kitchen knife, knitting needle or pet crocodile.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:19

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:19
Mike, are you argueing for the sake of argueing , or didn't you read this
"It's not the object that I worry about, it is having them in the wrong hands while I'm within several km."
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:28

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:28
>Mike, are you argueing for the sake of argueing

No I'm not Footloose. I have observed your irrational view of firearms for a number of years both on this forum and on the newsgroups and it deserves to be countered because it has no basis in reality - it is merely your prejudice and fear and I will always counter such opinions – if you can present a rational argument I’ll listen and respond but otherwise don’t expect any agreement from me.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:33

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:33
Mike, as usual you didn't answer the question Didn't you read what I wrote ?
You are free to agree or disagree as the case may be, but your usual method of attacking the poster instead of sticking to fact and substance doesn't constitute rational debate.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:42

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:42
Mike/Footloose,

Let's agree to disagree and leave it at that.

I'm a gun person but I can appreciate Footloose's personal views. He does'nt/won't travel with guns whereas it does'nt worry me as long as the necessary precautions are taken.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:44

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:44
Gramps, I don't need to travel with a firearm. I drive a Toyota :)))))
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:46

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:46
I haven't attacked you Footloose - I have merely challenged your stated opinions. I consider they are irrational (in this respect) and I have challenged you to support them. You have not done so and now appear to be getting rather grumpy about that.

If you can provide a reasonable argument about why firearms are, intrinsically, more dangerous than a chainsaw or a car or a can of petrol or a knitting needle I would be interested to hear it - otherwise I must conclude your prejudice is irrational.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:52

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 21:52
Mike, I challenge you to quote one case of me saying that firearms are intrinsically dangerous. To the best of my knowledge I have never done so. In fact, if you read my posts carefully and think about them, you will see that I have stated quite the opposite. A perfect example is the above post that you ignored ie where I stated
"It's not the object that I worry about, it is having them in the wrong hands while I'm within several km."

I also challenge you to prove that firearms in the hands of a civilian are intrinsically safe.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:04

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:04
>Mike, I challenge you to quote one case of me saying that
>firearms are intrinsically dangerous

The following, effectively, says it:

>>Now you know why I'm not keen on camping with guns :)))

Otherwise why would you single out "guns" - it might as well be knitting needles?

>In fact, if you read my posts carefully and think about them,
>you will see that I have stated quite the opposite. A perfect
>example is the above post that you ignored ie where I stated
>"It's not the object that I worry about, it is having them in
>the wrong hands while I'm within several km."

So you are concerned every time a Boeing 747 flys overhead?

I suspect you are not?

Because you have rationalised that not every 747 aircraft will be flown by people intent on causing damage with it.

Therefore; why ever do you make such assumptioms about firearms?

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:17

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:17
Because the topic involved a person (jokingly I hope) stating that he nearly went and got his gun * not his chainsaw, knife, knitting needle or whatever* when he thought his mate was something else. ie he was frightened. Had I been his mate and he'd have told me , I would have been frightened that someone could find themselves in a position to shoot me accidently. Obviously this wasn't the case, but shooting accidents happen all too often, even with those who grow up with firearms.
In other words, thats why I don't like camping with firearms, some people can be irrisponsible. Accidents do happen.
Boeing 747's are flown by (we hope) sane, drug and psychosis free highly trained people. I cannot, assume that firearms are in similar hands.

Now, prove that guns and their owners, are just as worry free.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:25

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:25
>Now, prove that guns and their owners, are just as worry free.

I think I've made my point.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:28

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:28
Gee would ya look at the chit storm I created.

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:30

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:30
And your point is ?
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:34

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:34
Exoloder, you didn't create it. We just agreed that we have different points of view. Fair enough, should of been end of topic. Neither of us had a point to prove.
Unfortunately, others appear to think otherwise. Don't worry, I've been there before :))
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:35

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:35
>And your point is ?

Your stated opinion, in respect of firearms, is based on an irrational perspective, as it has been for a number of years.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:37

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:37
And what is your rational perspective , Mike ?
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:45

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:45
I have already made 8 contributions to this thread Footloose - I doubt I could express myself any more clearly in a ninth.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:49

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:49
>>> Gee would ya look at the chit storm I created.

Like a gun going off in a china shop
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:50

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:50
So, Mike, despite following my *irrational perspective* for a *number of years*, you are unable to state your own views, merely to attack mine.

Yes, you've spoken volumes.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:56

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:56
Do you ever wonder if you're a bit of a "last word man" Footloose?

Goodnight :)

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:58

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:58
Now why would you think that, Mike ? :))
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 03:23

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 03:23
WooOOOooooOOOooo.......
I think this thread is haunted....... LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 07:55

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 07:55
Footy....

Mike.... is ....well.... just being Mike! LOL....LOL....
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 22:58

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 22:58
Regarding guns, I'll throw in my 'two bobs worth'.
Anybody that carrys a gun on a camping trip "for protection", is a ticking bomb as far as I'm concerned.

And before you get started about me being anti guns, I used to sell firearms & used them for many years, until I had no further use for them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Pezza (QLD) - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 00:07

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 00:07
"Anybody that carrys a gun on a camping trip "for protection", is a ticking bomb as far as I'm concerned. "

What a bloody crock shaker!

And what do you reckon would have happened to granny up at Cape melville if one of the other campers wasn't carrying a gun for protection?
There's thousands of people out there that are perfectly safe handling a firearm, whether that's because they have grown up handling them responsibly or have spent many years living, eating and sleeping with them, ie. defence force, or have spent years using them daily to make a living, and you're going to try and tell me that because these people choose to take a firearm in a vehicle with them camping or otherwise, that they are a time bomb? Gimme a break!

Pezza
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 09:07

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 09:07
I was probably referring to my area in the southern states, & should have been more specific by saying ..... for protection against human intervention.

In reference to the "granny", the croc did nothing wrong, their selection of a camping site was nothing short of gross stupidity.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 09:22

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 09:22
Shaker, now ya done it ! Look at what happened to me when I mentioned guns ! If you're not careful you'll be told that you have the same "irrational fears". Then you end up in a bunfight where there's no discussion, merely accusation.
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Reply By: Member - Happy Little Camper - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:35

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:35
Hi Matt

Do you know where I can get some more info on Ghost Rocks....sounds intrigueing to me and would like to hear some stories.

Cheers Red
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:53

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:53
Hello

The book originally referred to in first post is here

Site Link

Cheers
Greg
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:54

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:54
Woops ..and here

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Follow Up By: Member - Happy Little Camper - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:24

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:24
Kewl....thanks!

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Follow Up By: Member - Matt- Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 22:21

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 22:21
Gday Red, the rocks get about half a page worth in the book, p41. Although they heard the noise nightly they put it down to the contraction of the sun baked rock in the cool night air... if were a supernatural thing, I'm not sure how keen I would be to camp there... by myself any way. Just being out at an unknown mans grave near Ive Rock WA once again solo, was enough to get the imagination going into overdrive LOL matt
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Reply By: Steve from Albany - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:51

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:51
Hey, awesome thread hijack guys. Just going back to the original topic for a moment, Matt, I noticed on my map that Ghost Rocks are in the middle of an Aboriginal reserve. I'll bet there is a good dreamtime legend about these rocks. Is it mentioned in the book? We camped at Lake ballard last year next to where the scupltures are, and if I had known about Ghost Rocks then, I would have stayed there the night to listen for the noises. My wife just loves spooky stuff like that
Regards
steve.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt- Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 22:36

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 22:36
Hi Steve, I'm glad some one noticed the hijacking... There is no mention of Dream Time connections but that is a very good point and some thing to look at. It's always good having different perspectives on a place like this, black man, white man and the twighlight zone.
matt
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 10:13

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 10:13
Just got back from a trip around that area a few days ago and used to work out there. Never heard any ghosts but did see Min Min lights on Leinster Downs Station one night. Let me give you the tip, that is some freaky bleep if you don't know what they are.

Still don't actually. But they do exist 100%
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Follow Up By: Member - Happy Little Camper - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 22:41

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 22:41
Hey V8

Min Min Lights Explained

Cheers
HLC
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 07:59

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 07:59
Thanks for that, very interesting.

As it mentioned, the certainly do spin you out when you see them. Only seen them once and had no idea what it was back then. At the time, the experience left me very unsure as to what I should do next.
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Follow Up By: Member - Happy Little Camper - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 08:03

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 08:03
Changing your underwear by the sounds of things?......lmao
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 08:33

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 08:33
Not far off the mark;-))) Skid that is
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 09:16

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 09:16
Yep, the Boulia area has been called "skid row" :))
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