FITCH TEST / Question to BILLS
Submitted: Monday, May 22, 2006 at 12:33
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Member - Stan (VIC)
OK I know it been covered to death on this
forum, but no one can to tell
me what is fuel consumption figures I can get from 4.0L V6 Petrol Prado...
I am going to outback trip in about 3 weeks time covering about 10000km. With Petrol fuel prices in outback expected to be up to $2 per liter I thought this will be a good time to
test the Fitch. If it does work (with at least 10% fuel saving would be my minimum product performance satisfaction level) it will almost pay for itself by the end of the trip and if not I will get my money back so I got nothing to lose!?!?
The current average fuel consumption while on Petrol is 16.2 litres per 100km.
The LPG fuel consumption is 17.5 Liters per 100km. I normally fill my LPG tank full and run on it until it empty, then fill it again.
Now the question to BIILS - considering I got both petrol and LPG tanks I will need
to fit the in-line version of Fitch catalyst. What version should I get for my 4.0L Prado? Is there any issues using it with new Injected Gas Systems and who should I contact to get 1 :)?
Now for everyone else on the list I am not affiliated with Fitch in any way, etc. etc... And I'll let you know the results as they come.
Stan
Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Monday, May 22, 2006 at 14:10
Monday, May 22, 2006 at 14:10
You have read all the evasive manoevers, double talk, second hand testimonial, 20yr old data applied to US built carburetted engines, discredited theory, etc, etc, etc...
...and you STILL belive they are worth trying????????????
Spend your money.
As I said in another thread recently (Hydrogen generation), "A fool and his money are soon parted".
By the way, if you have a question for BillS, use the link to his product an contact him directly, rather than drag this old horse up AGAIN!!!!! The rest of us are pretty much over him, his deceitful marketing techniques, and his abuse of this
forum as an advertising medium....
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Follow Up By: Pavo - Monday, May 22, 2006 at 18:22
Monday, May 22, 2006 at 18:22
"The rest of us are pretty much over him"...not everyone, coz I can see a lot of the "rest of us" still replying below. No one has to read this thread, it's not like the subject heading Stan supplied tricked anyone.
I tend to have a giggle when I read these kinds of threads - no different to the old tyre/fridge/car make ones, coz none of those provide any scientific proof of which is the better one either.
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Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Monday, May 22, 2006 at 14:20
Monday, May 22, 2006 at 14:20
Poinless asking what your fuel economy should be as we don't know how you drive, how loaded your vehicle is, or how many km on the clock (old/new motor).
As a rough guide, your milage on a run usually is about halfway between the "city" and "hwy" Govt figures.
Why are you so intent on fitting the Futch if you are going to be running on gas? The Futch is not intended for use on LPG AT ALL!! You will only be able to use it on petrol, at which point it is redundant as you will be on gas for most of the vehicles life (saving heaps more money that the Futch ever would).
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Follow Up By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Monday, May 22, 2006 at 16:30
Monday, May 22, 2006 at 16:30
"The Fitch is not intended for use on LPG AT ALL!! You will only be able to use it on petrol"
Gary, who told you that?
According to info on their web suite they are used in LPG cars and get up to 20% fuel saving (on standard non-injected LPG systems) Site Link
There your chance to ask all the questions regarding the car before the fitch installed.
Here the answers to the questions above:
The car got around 54000Km on the speedo.
I typically drive at the leisury pace - easy to moderate acceleration while keeping engine just under 2000rpm unless I am in a hurry somewhere and typically travel
just within the speed limit if traffic allows it...
The car at the moment is pretty standard weigh. It's got dual batteries, air compressor and lpg under the bonnet, stock standard tyres, third row seats
taken out, 2" lift with bilsteins/lovells
suspension, rhino rack commercial 3 bar roof rack system on the roof and the
snorkel...
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Monday, May 22, 2006 at 14:32
Monday, May 22, 2006 at 14:32
Stan ,,dont even think about it ,, when the subject reared its head again just prior to
easter I challenged BillS to give me a unit to
test and that the cost of the unit would be held by a third party [David from ExploreOz] ,after excuses from Bill about him going to golf ect ect Iwas palmed off to his nth Qld counterpart , cut a long story short I am still waiting ,,,,had 1 very long email from NQ about fitting and the usual b-ll that BillS gives out ,how it would take x amount of fuel to go thru before any gains ,black smoke from my oil galleries being cleaned ect ect ,,, works out that the guarantee/waranty of 3mths money back is looong gone before the fine print claims of fuel savings can possibly come into effect ,, ohh and have you checked the cost/price of the units ???? even at $2+ per lt the cost buys a lot of fuel ,, more than even the most outlandish of BillS claims would not be recouperated in 4/5 yrs.
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Reply By: Member - John R (NSW) - Monday, May 22, 2006 at 20:19
Monday, May 22, 2006 at 20:19
Goodonya Alloy! Keep seeking answers.
We're all still waiting with bated breath :-)
I used to have an LPG car, but for the life of me can't work out how you can drop those pellets or whatever they're called into a LPG tank? Do you poke 'em through that little valve where you put the filling noozle, or do you pay a licenced LPG mechanic to remove said valve to drop them in the empty tank? (hate to get my fingies frozen orff).
This miraculously formulated device now works with LPG! And one size fits all! (Petrol, diesel and LPG).
As Ritchie used to say....."SSSSSSSooooper effort, that!!"
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 10:21
Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 10:21
I thought it interesting to see the Fitch fuel catalyst listed on a website called SCAM.COM. Why would they list the Fitch there, it's got me beat..?
Site Link
The Fuel Catalyst Scam is explained , here is a small extract:
Especially surprising is the fact that most makers of fuel "catalysts" claim their products are equally suited to petrol and diesel engines. Petrol and diesel are quite different; the combustion processes in petrol and diesel engines are quite different; and the qualities that make a "good" petrol are not the same (indeed in are exactly opposite to) the qualities that make a "good" diesel. Even if we assume that a catalyst to produce "better" petrol could be devised, and also a catalyst to produce "better" diesel, for these to be one and the same thing seems highly implausible to me.
Some commentators claim that the various catalysts work very
well in theory, but the evil oil companies specifically add products to their fuel to "disable" them. Even if true (which would be easy enough to prove by carrying out scientific tests on the product using an alternative fuel), you have to ask why these catalytic products are not simply sold in other countries where the fuel blend is different.
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