Empire Day

Submitted: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 09:58
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Today is Empire Day...
Am I the only person who remembers the Empire? Am I the only person who is going to take a half day holiday and light an illegal firework (home made) at an illegal bon fire? I am only to happy to email patriotic music via midi files to anyone who wants to help me celebrate.....
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (QLD) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:05

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:05
I can't remember ever seeing fireworks other than for Guy Fawkes 5th November in SA, Maybe in other states could have been different
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Reply By: Footloose - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:15

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:15
Fireworks ? What are they ?
Can remember the wonderful times we had as kids, firing rockets and throwing "penny bungers" and generally trying as hard as we could to injure or maim ourselves.
The last time we had a very controlled fireworks thing was when my son was about 4...and he's 25 now.
Anyone remember "sparkelers" ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Coyote (SA) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:26

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:26
You can still buy sparklers in coles.. ad in fact you can still buy fireworks in ACT legally... I guess there is something good about the ACT afterall..
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:34

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:34
The ACT ? I'm told it's good for 3 things. Importing "illegal" fireworks from, and importing p*&n from. And getting rid of a lot of objectionable and mouthy individuals for some of the year :))
Naaah, it's a seriously nice place to visit....when it's warm. I have a sister that lives there. I see her at family funerals and hear from her ...umm....never ? LOL
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:51

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:51
Sparklers...you can still get them

Can you recall how many letter box's you blew up?
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:32

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:32
Yes you can still buy fireworks but you can't light the blue touch paper and retire legally in the ACT without approval from the Minister of sport & recreation...But what an idea you guys have given me A nice raparian BBQ with illegal porn and illegal fireworks.... Oh joy Oh rapture. The porn is illegal if the male participants do not use condoms, just an example of how stupid & petty our legislators are, with far more important matters to worry about our legislators worry about that sort of garbage...
You just have to wonder....
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:46

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:46
Road trip to Canberra for next Gathering at Murray Sunset!
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 12:14

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 12:14
We used to go around the next day picking up fireworks that hadn't worked. Then we'd let em off or pinch the gunpowder (can't remember what we did with it).
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Follow Up By: G&R - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 14:22

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 14:22
You can still get fire works in the NT. They are for sale 2 days prior to Territory Day, July 1. You can only let them off (leagally) on July 1. Heaps of fun!!

Greg
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Reply By: joc45 - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:23

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:23
And have you got a picture of Queen Victoria on the mantlepiece?
(flanked by Union Jack and Australian flags, of course....)
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:25

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:25
errrrrrrrrrrrr well not actually on the mantel piece as I dont have one....But I do have a picture of the great lady herself & by crikey she was a Queen, not like this stuckup pompous upperclass twit we have now...Back to the picture, Yes I have a very early pic of Victoria & Albert in all their regal finery inspecting the locomotive of the "Royal" train that was to take them on an excursion through India which as you are all aware was the jewel in the Crown....
Flags are somewhat a contentious issue around here, I also celebrate one of, if not the most important, events in our short history & that of course is the "Eureka Stockade" so the Union Jack is rarely flown (except today) and the Australian flag is flown as a matter of course but then the "Eureka" flag is flown on the 3rd of December, if I have a Naval attache visit then of course the White Ensign is flown, for other pseudo naval types I have of course a Red Ensign and both the Upper & Lower Murray River flags should a fellow retrenched paddle steamer Captain drop in for "tea"...
" Ther'll always be an England, and England shall be free...la lal la la What England means to me"
Oh I nearly forgot my shrinks appointment, where I will discus my alien abduction with him....
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 12:01

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 12:01
Ah my grandmother would have been proud of you, she being of proud UK stock. She used to keep a 1954 pic of HM QEII and that Greek guy on the sideboard, flanked by appropriate flags and other empire and royal visit accoutrements. And the beautiful two-bob enamel mugs commemorating Queen Vic's 50th anniversary.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 12:19

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 12:19
Funny thing is I was originally a Pom. And I don't and never have given a flying you know what for Queens and Royals.
My wife is 1st generation Oz (and has the marks on her ankles to prove it :) and loves visiting the place, is fascinated by its history etc.
Me ? I'm just the same except with me its Australia.
Life is strange at times.
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 15:41

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 15:41
Which makes me wonder; do our masters back over on the other side of the globe realise it's Empire Day, or is this just a Colonial thing?
I'll be over there next week, so I might just do a straw poll in the streets.....
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Follow Up By: signman - Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 at 15:15

Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 at 15:15
to joc45
I've been trying to make email contact with you at
gerron(at)bigpond(dot)net(dot)au with no response- it was kicked back..
Could you please drop me a email with your address- as i have a 'personal' for you..
op(dot)support(at)tsn(dot)cc
Thanks
signman
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Saturday, Jun 17, 2006 at 00:05

Saturday, Jun 17, 2006 at 00:05
try gezza90 (at) tpg (dot) com (dot) au
currently over in the UK
Gerry
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Reply By: ImEasy - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:26

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:26
Who gives a Toss about Empire day??
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Follow Up By: Max - Sydney - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:45

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:45
Tossers who voted against the Republic 6 1/2 years ago!

:-)
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Follow Up By: Member - John R (NSW) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:50

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 10:50
I've never heard of it. The only thing I can remember about the empire was all the pink shaded countries on the world map at school back in the 60's :-)) There seemed to be a lot of 'em ;-)

Wasn't cracker night on Queen's Birthday weekend? Ahhh, the memories...Thunders in letterboxes, and street drains (That got the neighbourhood dogs barking, eh?). Shooting Magic Shots at each other! That wasn't dangerous, was it?
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:01

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:01
Speaking of schools and crackers. The old primary school at Villawood had a pricipal that delighted in chasing the dogs of the school grounds by throwing crackers at them. Great days for sure and how things have changed - not for the better either he's probably chasing kids instead.

Kind regards
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Reply By: The Bigfella - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:08

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:08
I'm only 57 and remember "Empire Day" quite well. Always got half a day off school and had "Cracker Night". That was here in NSW. I lived on a farm and we used to spend weeks getting wood together for the big "Bonfire". As a kid it was one of the highlights of the year.
I always remember the time a "Sky Rocket" misfired and went in to my shoe box of fireworks and sent the lot off. I cried and was really pi$$ed of at the time but it sure did put on a great show as all the fireworks went off in the shoe box.
Oh, the memories
Cheers
The Bigfella
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:35

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 11:35
Ah Big fella the memories bring tears to my eyes, that was always the aim to get a bunger into someone elses Cracker box....
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Follow Up By: Alan H - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 13:32

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 13:32
Got many happy and not so happy memories of what I did with bangers in my youth in the UK.
Certainly I put them in peoples letterboxes and over there they were in houses front doors! So it was a totally stupid and dangerous trick.
I also put them in wasps nests and ran like crazy when they came swarmimg out.

I got thumped a couple of times by irate and very angry householders and stung many times by irate and very angry wasps!
Did I learn from my painful experiences? Certainly not.

But now the nanny state we live in doesn't want people to do anything, let alone silly, stupid things, so the kids stay home and play computer games instead.
Ah well, such is life I suppose.
Alan.
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 13:55

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 13:55
No you are not the only one who remembers. May 24 is also my birthday and I took it as a personal offence when they decommissioned Empire day. It was great to have fireworks as a celebration.

My nephew in-law is a sparky and he regularly brings packs of fireworks home - buys them from a guy who travels up from Canberra to Sydney once per month and sells the packs ($100, $200, ...) in the carpark of a few local pubs. The tradies seem to know him well.

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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 14:17

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 14:17
As kids in the early 60s we used to sing a ditty on Empire day/ Guy Fawkes/ cracker night [cant remember if one and the same day] Twas,,
"Rule Brittana,,marmalade and jam,,5 chinese crackers up her bum ,,going boom ,bang bang,,,bang bang."
a different more innocent age.
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY VIC) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 16:09

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 16:09
Gday
We still sing that one now and againamong others.....specialy out in the bush
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Reply By: Member - ROTORD - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 15:03

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 15:03
Official mail was printed with " On His Majesty's Service " . When QEII came to the throne , OHMS appeared but some thrifty departments still sent out the old envelopes for some years after . Government property didn't exist , it all belonged to the Queen . I remember a drill instructor finding a temporarily stowed .303 rifle bellowing out " Who owns this rifle ? " and a nearby troop answered reasonably " Her Majesty , but I am looking after it for her ."
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Reply By: ZUKSCOOTERX90(QLD-MEMBER) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 18:36

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 18:36
I to enjyed CRACKER night used love going out in the bush cutting/chopping tree's down carting them home.The fire works the added bonus.Like all good things though the few radicals ruined it by shoving the bunger's up the the proverbial backside of the dog's & cat's & other thing's.One my school/football mates had a pocket full of bunger's some idiot lit one or put a lit one in the pocket, it nice mess of his leg,the poor bugger. Bob.
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 19:14

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 19:14
Now I do not recall Empire Day as the government where I was living came up with other ideologies just as I was gaining consciousness( at about 5 years of age).
I remember Guy Fawkes Night however, and below is an extract from my website

"Please to remember / The 5th November:
Gunpowder, Treason and Plot.
We know no reason / Why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot."

I sometimes wondered if Guy Fawkes Night was meant for us kids or for the grown ups. After all, the grown ups went and bought all the firecrackers, organised the meat and salads for the barbecue, And they lit all the crackers and rockets after placing them in strategic places. So what were we meant to do? Squeal with delight when a rocket flew off into the darkness leaving a trail of rapidly fading sparklers?

I wonder.

Who was this Guy Fawkes anyway? Well, he was, I was told, the person who tried to blow up the House of Parliament in England. Where is England??

When I first heard the name I thought his name was Guy Fox. Was he as cunning as a fox or did he wear a fox outfit?

Then I was shown a picture of the Houses of Parliament and also saw the correct spelling of the infamous character.
It was years later when I found out what the real event was all about.

But in this small country town, during the 1940’s and 1950’s, in the middle of semi-desert South Africa, we celebrated Guy Fawkes Night on 5th November each year.

As always, a cloudless night prevailed and we gathered after dusk at the back yard of Uncle Jacks’ home. Jack was my dad’s cousin and we all lived in the same street. They had the biggest back yard, which also bordered on to the side of the hill and presented an ideal place to launch rockets from.

The adult men usually cooked the meat whilst enjoying a glass or two of whiskey and the ladies surged around in the kitchen and the outside tables preparing and presenting food and sipping their own brew of alcoholic mix.
If ten families were invited then there were at least 30 kids of all ages ranging up from babies to teenagers. I was somewhere in the middle of the age group. Six, seven eight or nine years of age. Too young to play with the teenagers and too old to make any sense out of the younger kids. But there were five or six of us of the same age and so we stuck together. While the adults were not taking any notice of the kids, the teenagers were usually plotting some devilish trick on my generation.

On one particular night the older boys somehow got hold of three large bottles of beer and despatched of them in no time at all. Then as the brew bubbled up into their heads they became rowdy and started playing silly games. The adults did not notice anything for they too were telling lewd jokes around the fire whilst happily burning the meat.

The first kid to run foul of the older boys was my cousin Garth. Someone attached a live string of happy crackers to his short pants and he ran off screaming as the crackers went bang so close to his posterior. Amidst great admonishment by the elders the teenagers faded into the darkness only to plot some other naughty party trick.

After food came the “real’ fireworks when the adults lit their roman candles and sent rockets soaring into the sky. Whilst all were “ooing” and “aahing” at the bright display of sparkles and falling stars, someone stuck a double-bunger into my hand and ran off. Before I could release my grip it went off with a loud bang. The force of this mini explosion caused a great blister to well up in the palm of my hand and along my fingers and left a pitch-black mark from the exploded cordite. I stood there too stunned to say anything except to offer a weak whimper.

Then all hell broke loose, inebriated adults fanning out in all directions, in a desperate but fruitless search for the culprits. Stumbling in the dark and falling over logs and rocks which had always been there. Someone in the confusion suggested a possible suspect and then our fathers started arguing amongst themselves, quite loudly, I might add, as to whose child had been so irresponsible.

It took a great deal of self-control by some to take control of the situation and to calm things down. The teenagers had disappeared for the rest of the night, no doubt giggling somewhere in the dark, out of the perimeter of the light of the fire.

I was taken down to the hospital to be examined and it turned out that there was no permanent damage. Yes, my ego was dented but the next day at school I could relay with great aplomb on just how my hand was bandaged up like it had been severed at the wrist.

To this day no one has owned up to that dastardly deed.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 19:30

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 19:30
Who was it [the alzheimers is really kicking in tonight,or it may just be the red wine] who said "it was the best of times,it was the worst of times " ,,, childhood memories long forgotten that surface through a chance remark make for some fine storytelling ,nice one Willem
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 19:46

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 19:46
It was a wonderful and happy childhood, just like the time I am enjoying now. :-)
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Reply By: Member - ROTORD - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:13

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:13
'It was the best of times , it was the worst of times ' - opening lines to A Tale of Two Cities ?
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:21

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:21
Lke I said alzheimers or too much red ,,sound about right though ,an extra Tommy Tarax badge if you can quote the next line ,
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 01:55

Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 01:55
yeah lets celebrate the bastards who invented taxes............. and the subservient workers supporting the overlords.

Now as for fireworks - GIDDYUP....
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Reply By: dingbat - Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 09:20

Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 09:20
A good read Wiiliem--here in the ACT I remember at school they handed out cards(business card size)--with the Oz flag and the union jack with crossed poles and some appropriate wording underneath--we also celebrated UN day in Oct
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