Canning Permits

The permit system is the greatest lot of crap this country has seen for many years.

It serves no purpose other than creating a power base for the Land Councils.

If the traditional owners were so worried about places and sites in the past why did they not say so and petition the govt to put safegaurds into place. Here we have been visiting sites along the Canning for years and now suddenly permits have to be obtained. It is all about power.

I advocate civil disobedience in refursing to obtain permits for the Canning.

I am happy to apply for permits to places which are rarely visited as I have recently been successful in doing. There is a place for certain permits but to start on places which have been frequented for years, is rediculous.

Unless they install toll booths at either end of the track I think I will just have to not read this forum and not join a club then I can plead ignorance and if anyone says anything while I'm half way along the track I will just say sorry didnt know, I will leave immediately ,and continue either up or down in the direction I was travelling.

Its no different to finding someone on your property , you can only ask them to leave . sure if they refuse you can call in the heavies but you cannot say stiff s*it bucko thats $ x for being here without permission.
maybe I should try it- then I could afford a new 4wd like the ones the people who issue these permits drive.

The canning Stock route saga!! The following is an extract from the Western 4WDriver magazine 59th Edition winter 2006, page 131.

"A disturbing event occurred on the CSR not too long ago that will change the way we consider the CSR from this point on."

Members of the Martu people who hold exclusive possession native title to country adjacent to the CSR were visiting a sacred site when a group of Victorian tourists ordered them to leave and questioned their right to be there." How to win friends and influence people-not"
"This caused obvious concern and has resulted in the Ngaanyatjarra Council insisting all travellers intending to wander off the CSR get permission to do so before they depart for the region. The area covered by the title includes all land adjacent to the CSR fro well 15 to well 40 including Calvert range, Durba Springs, and the wider Percival Lake area. At this point permission is required but their is no permit as such and no associated cost. A template is available on the net which needs to be filled out and forwardedfor approval. The Council simply wants to make the if you are simply travelling up the CSR without any side trips between well 15 & 40then permission is not required.
You can contact Lisa Maher@ ngaanyatjarra.org.au for the template".

That is word for word out of the current Western 4WDriver magazine.
It just goes to show what is happening around Australia it is the arrogant, irresponsible 5% that is causing the grief and stuffing it up for the 95% of responsible 4WDrivers.
It is no wonder that the Land managing agencies are closing down tracks etc and making life hard for the genuine responsible travellers.

It won't be long for a lot of the above if not all will only be accessible to the indigenous people, and you can't blame them.
I have been fortunate enough to have travelled the CSR and been to all of those sites and the artwork petraglyphs Calverts) are awesome. I feel sad to think that my grandchildren will be restricted to the blacktop and not be able to experience the off road travels that I have enjoyed doing in this unique and wonderful country of ours.
Happy Travels, Ericm WA.

Lindsay
I phoned them about 2 weeks ago and they emailed me all the paperwork that afternoon. Have filled it out and submitted it to them to be presented at there next meeting which is in June. There was no mention of any cost involved in any of the paperwork they sent me. The sites they list are extensive and include more than just between well 15 and 40. They also include alot of the wells themselves. I do agree with everyone that you should not need permission to travel our country but at this point am willing to play along to see if they are reasonable with granting that permission. I'm happy to let them know where i am going and when as long as that is all they ask of me.
Drifta

Lindsay,

I am leaving on Tuesday for the Canning and have not yet received the permits to the Canning. Vic applied as soon as he got the letter about the permits but even after phone calls has not heard back from them.

They don't want money, but more like how many are going to be on the Canning this year.

I think that they thought it was a good idea at the time but just could not organise them selfs to do the permits in time.

We are still going. If I am asked for a permit I will just say that it is in the mail, and because that we are part of a responsible tour group they would have granted us permission.

Tour company's that have done the Canning in the past have also been sent the letter.

Vic Widman has a bit o say about this in his column in the June Overlander magazine.

Wayne

One of the points that i tried to make to those who issue the proposed permits as to what their interpretation was as adjacent to the Canning. I have an old map and it shows that the track that we all follow deviates from the gazetted stock route. From my interpretation the stock route is about 5 miles wide. Is that the area you are allowed on,and not allowed off? Killugurra spring is one of the wells on the stock route are we allowed there without a permit?These are some of the questions i asked to no avail. They have not replied to my emails or phone calls. As someone who has toured around the outback for 30 years i will continue to do as i always have. William you are right in your opinions and until we stand up and say we are all australians it will only continue. A couple of years ago I attempted to travel the Colsen track with a permit. On phoning the relevent organisation they did not know where it was,however, they said there were some very important areas there that had to be preserved. Station people to the north of the track told me of an area where there was some water was claimed to be of cultural significance and an attemted claim made on it and it was proven that it was man made by station owners. Are we being taken for a ride on some of these issues. I must state that I do support the protection of these areas but lets be fair dinkum.