First Puncture

Submitted: Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 15:56
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Got my first puncture in 18 years driving today,just when Ive decided to replace them.We were heading out to the Keep river this morning and there is a section thats real bony about 5kms long.After about the first km I strarted thinking maybe I should drop pressure's abit but decided seeing as we were only doing 75 she'd be right.Just crossed the NT/WA border when the bony bit stopped and we were on black soil when vehicle felt funny,hopped out to see tyre nearly flat.Stuck 9 plugs in tyre but still leaking so decided to turn around and head back to Kununurra.Had a spare but remembered that we now had alloys on and didnt know if nuts would fit(as it turns out they do),great time to find out.Made it back to home safetly,had tp inflate tyre from about 20psi three times on way back.Now Im in a real hurry to order my MTR'S.
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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 16:35

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 16:35
Nick

The 4x4 Fairy Godmother must have been on your side all these years.

I seem to average about 5 punctures a year. They are generally staked tyres.

When I was running splits I used to average about 10 punctures a year!!!
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Follow Up By: Jugs - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 16:51

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 16:51
Willem
With all that practice which repair kit do you like / recomend
Oh and good luck on the trip.
Jugs
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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 17:00

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 17:00
Jugs

I am getting quite proficient using the plugs. Always try to have some psi in the punctured tyre before plugging.

In the old days I used to split the rims with tyre pliers but have not damaged a tubeless tyre where I need to fit a gater(inside patch) or tube. Time will tell if this is ever going to be necessary.

Most of my punctures happen at a very slow speeds.

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 19:37

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 19:37
Jugs,

We've used nothing but plugs foir the past 7 years - best thing since sliced bread.

The best plugs are made by "Tech", but they are hard to find and cost a bit more. Each plug comes with a plastic coating, so they last for years without drying out. Its best to use the Tech glue with them. Need to get them thru the Tech distributor - don't usually find them at the shops.

Theres a whole lot of other plugs out there, but most are either the thicker brown short ones, or the longer thin black ones. The thicker brown ones are the better ones to use, as most staked tyres are fixed with a single plug. Best place to buy them is probably Repco, who market them under the "Slime" brand. Can get a pack of 30 of these plugs and a decent tin of glue with brush for not a lot of money.

I prefer to fix them on the vehicle. First thing to do is put the pump on the tyre to get some pressure in it. If you can't find a hole, spray some mildly soapy water around the tyre using a 500ml spray bottle - and look for an expanding bubble. Then load up the plug onto the tool. Slip some glue into the hole with the other tool (feeling for the direction of the hole). Add a bit of glue on the plug, then slowly insert the plug in the correct direction until theres about 1cm of plug hanging out still. Sray soapy water over it again to see if its sealed. If its not, slip another plug or two in there.

Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 21:16

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 21:16
"I seem to average about 5 punctures a year."
Hell, I've been known to get that many on a trip. LOL Admittedly, they were Grand Trek radials and barely kept the rims off the ground..
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 08:34

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 08:34
Yes Uncle Donut....isnt it about time you bought some decent tyres....lol
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 17:49

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 17:49
Did that a year or so ago. Problem solvered
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Reply By: Member - Nick (Kununurra) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 16:57

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 16:57
Now Ive just got the spare on and find its a 275/70 not 265/75 like the rest,will this size differance matter being a constant 4WD.
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Follow Up By: Member - bushfix - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 18:52

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 18:52
rear or front? either way i think it is illegal but your running gear not to mention your tyres I believe would be placed under unnecessary and potentially dangerous stress. reckon your tyres would not track properly either esp if it is a front tyre when they need to "arc" together.

what i reckon anyway...

but, as Quickdraw used to say (nothin like a spare spare!) or was that MacGilla?
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 20:37

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 20:37
Nick,
Nobody's going to tell you it doesn't matter.

But a 275/70 is just over 790mm diameter, new, while a 265/75 is about 805-810mm.

So not much difference. Your fulltime 4wd should be able to cope with that, provided you don't lock the centre diff on a hard surface. I assume its only there until you get the tyres replaced or fixed.
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Follow Up By: Member - Nick (Kununurra) - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 21:46

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 21:46
Yeah mate,new tyres will be on by thisweekend hopefully.
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Reply By: Footloose - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 18:01

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 18:01
Nick, that must have been a shock !
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 18:39

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 18:39
9 plugs and still leaking does not equal a puncture.

Thats a well and trully trashed tyre.

Where was it - in the tread or the side wall.
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Follow Up By: Member - Nick (Kununurra) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 19:10

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 19:10
Yeah spose your right,the hole was in the middle of the tread.When we got back ,I ripped the tyre off the rim,dont look to bad from the inside but I can stick the plier end of my Leathermans in the hole.Oh well the plugs got me home,about 60kms.
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 19:16

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 19:16
Thats all you need mate.

I just trashed a brand new $300 tyre at the Outback Challenge.

Rock or Stick straight through the side wall where it meets the tread block.

5 plugs sealed it , but it was only an emergency spare to get back to Broken Hill where I piffed it and bought a new one.

Just too dangerous to use it any more.
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Reply By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 20:35

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 20:35
Average 10 punctures a year using splits? You must have been using the wrong tyres or wrong pressures for the load as I have only ever used splits all over Aus. with very few problems---Perth to Cape York and back with not one puncture as an example.Everyone to their own but I will stick with the splits.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 21:53

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 21:53
Puncture may not be the right word. Most "flats" with splits I've seen in recent years have been tube fatigue or split seams or just little pinholes on crappy replacement Korean tubes.

New jap vehicles tend to have good tubes.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 08:27

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 08:27
Yep Phil is on the money.

That was back when journeys were long and money was short....lol

Used to run Telecom Tyres and tubes and mostly second hand stuff. Was towing a big fella caravan around and had tyres pumped a tad. Poor quality tubes overheat or get a bit of dirt inside the tyre and you have a flat.

Life has progressed a bit since then. Much to my surprise I have changed my views on splits and run tubeless all the time now. As mentioned before, these days my flats are mostly stakes when going in to unchartered territory( or a wayward nail in my back yard...lol)

But hard core cheesecutter tyres are the go for mega offroad driving at slow speeds. Biut I will probably not be doing too many of them from now on.
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