Buying on E Bay
Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:52
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I am looking at buying a Seiko watch on E bay, and was amazed the prices being changed compared with my local stores.
Understanding that E Bay could be a minefield for those who lack the knowledge, I am hoping someone could throw some light on this matter.
Many thanks
Col Tigwell
Reply By: Member - Ed. C.- Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 11:26
Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 11:26
A few years ago I bought a cheap ($20.00) "Steel" brand watch on ebay which the seller advertised as having a Seiko movement.. Watch works just fine, and I have no reason to doubt the veracity of his statement...
More recently, I have purchased a couple of Citizen (ladies & gents) watches for a fraction of retail price, one of these being an Eco-Drive (gents) for just over $100...
These are the Genuine Article, & supplied with all paperwork (& presentation box) and full warranty cover...
These prices certainly highlight the very high margins that Australian jewellery stores enjoy....
As mentioned above,
check seller's history (and
feedback), do your homework (know your prices!), and there are indeed some bargains to be had...
If the seller is a volume seller, specialising in a narrow field, has been around a while, & has a high
feedback score, then it's a safe bet that he/she is legit...
One tip.... Never, ever, get into a "bidding war" with another bidder... Anything I buy on ebay, I put on my watchlist (no pun intended), and then don't go near it 'till a few minutes before the end time, when, if the price is still less than I'm prepared to pay, I enter my Max. bid, & press the "confirm bid" button with less than 5 seconds on the clock...(I can get it down to 2 secs. consistently)...
The main reason for doing this is that it lessens the risk of a "shill bidder" (or anyone else) pushing up the price...
If someone else has entered a higher proxy bid than my max., then I didn't want it anyway... I'll go find another....
Happy Hunting!!
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 21:37
Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 21:37
www.auctionstealer.com
Dave
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Reply By: Scubaroo - Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 11:55
Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 11:55
I think the Seiko watches on eBay are parallel imports - Seiko Australia won't warranty them (as they didn't import them in the first place, so why should they!). Basically someone has sourced them cheap overseas, and is cutting out all of the usual middleman and retail markups.
Often called
grey market goods. Nothing illegal about the practice, there's often huge savings to be had, but forget about contacting Seiko Australia if you have a warranty problem - the eBay seller has to provide you with statuatory warranty support as they are the importer. Not sure if the particular seller you've seen is offering that, but by law they have to (even though they might try and tell you otherwise). Just something to keep in mind.
That said, they're Seikos - they shouldn't really need warranty work (although my Kinetic Auto Relay died after 4 years - had it repaired myself as it was of warranty, and was told it was a common fault with that particular model).
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Follow Up By: robak (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:21
Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:21
Scubaroo is right. The warranty, if you need to use, is basically non-existant. In fact the importer could be YOU, and not the person sending it.
Also, remeber that the seller is in another country and therefore doesn't need to obey Australian Law and even if they did - good luck on getting them to court in Aus.
Having said that, there re some real bargains out there if nothing goes wrong.
Good luck
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 19:35
Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 19:35
I wonder if they make the Seikos as good as they used to. I have worn
mine everyday for 25 years, replaced a few batteries and had a couple of new straps...it just keeps on going.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 23:52
Wednesday, Jun 07, 2006 at 23:52
As so many have said before me
It may be genuine, but it may
well not be (most stuff i have bought from overseas eg Cd's from China are copies, but cheap)
Auctions do not have the same protection as retailers. Auction is "buyer beware".
Sometimes a buyer re-negs, and the loser bidder gets the second chance, but
check the details carefully, as it often comes from someone else trying to get your business. You will be able to spot differences. If it is suspect, there is a place on eBay to report this scam - do so. If it is a registered eBayer doing the wrong thing - a few complaints and person gets kicked off eBay.
Always
check freight and any 'hidden costs'. Email the seller before bidding if you want anything clarified.
Always
check the history of the seller. My family have all had an occasional loss (either goods not delivered, not the product as described, or product didn't work) and the seller has not come to the party and has been kicked off eBay after our complaint, but we have had to bear the loss (for claims, you must pay the first $39 anyway). Considering the savings on some items, we are still in front, and item is posted direct to you so it saves the cost of going to the retailer (some distance in our case).
With so many people using proxy bidding, bidding in the last few seconds is not essential - you can set you highest bid at any time and not look until it is all over (but miss the excitement of bidding in the last seconds). As I'm sure some sellers use dummy bidding, being there at the last would be wise with expensive items.
You will occasionally have disasters, but generally it is good fun, and if the item is cheap, worth the risk if you really want it.
Happy bidding!
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