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Hey guys now This is going to sound like a stupid question for an auto electrician to ask but bear with me on this one do any of you have a waeco fridge and what sized cable do you run to you're fridge and how far is the run and what sort of plug do you use I will explain my reason's after a few response's.
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 18:33

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 18:33
Hello Samuel,

1. Yes, I own a Waeco (confession, I own an Engel too)
2. 2.5 to 3.0 mm squared. It's what the uninformed call 5mm cable or some dubious current rating label.
3. Approximately 5 metres.
4. Anderson Power Poles.

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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 18:40

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 18:40
Is it safe to stick one's head up ? All those Engelphiles on their jihad, hell bent on fridgicide LOL

1 Yes
2 Don't know and it's too dark/cold outside to check
3 Roughly 3 to 4 metres
4 The normal plug supplied by Waeco with the red thingamajig removed and connected to Merit ( or is it Hella? ) socket.

I'll go back under cover now as I can hear some distinctly Engel sounding jackboots in the distance :))))
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 18:48

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 18:48
Stuff em Al,

I've got one of each!
Guess what? The Coopers Pale Ale I'm sucking on at the moment tastes just as good out of either.

Geoff.

PS, Don't tell those Crow Eaters I enjoy a Coopers or two dozen.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 18:57

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 18:57
Onya Geoff. Don't mind a Pale Ale or two myself. Better be careful though, MN1 will zero in on even the mention of Pale Ale :))))))

I was thinking about that other thread re fridges (the one with all the senseless bloodletting and angst). Clarkie would be best served listening to those who have had or have multiple fridges either now or over time. Less chance of bias perhaps.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:07

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:07
Jeez, what's a good forum without some bias.
Even the grannies knitting forum can't agree on whether to use a number 3 or 4 needle for doilies.

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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:14

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:14
Now Geoff, me and the girls have reached a preliminary, draft, penultimate agreement that we will use number 3 needles normally and number 4 on special occasions. We can't seem to agree now on what constitutes a special occasion .... oops was that knit one pearl one, or pearl one knit one ... bugger, I'll have to start all over again :))))
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Follow Up By: ZUKSCOOTERX90(QLD-MEMBER) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:29

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:29
Al,you & geoff should try youre nimble hands at Crocheting (the other form of knitting) not the between thigh, type is much easier lol,Bob.:)-<
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:37

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:37
Now brother ZookScoot I've gone off you when you failed with the Tall, Thin & Thick in that "other" thread.

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 20:02

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 20:02
Gramps, I can knit ! I've been knitting my brows for years :))))))))
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 12:03

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 12:03
Bob/Footloose,

LOL ... I'm lost for words :))))))
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Follow Up By: wheeleybin - Saturday, Jun 10, 2006 at 18:47

Saturday, Jun 10, 2006 at 18:47
I can just picture Geoff sitting at his desk at work waiting for a phone call on an electrical technically challenging question knitting a bloody beenie.Ha Ha Ha.
Knit two please one for my baldy head.
ian
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Saturday, Jun 10, 2006 at 19:23

Saturday, Jun 10, 2006 at 19:23
You know Ian,
If I can rely on one thing from you it's a bagging!!

What colour?

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Follow Up By: wheeleybin - Sunday, Jun 11, 2006 at 08:16

Sunday, Jun 11, 2006 at 08:16
geoff
Nipple Pink the correct colour for suckers.(LOL)
But please dont let it interfere with your domestic duties like washing and ironing only work on it at work.
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Reply By: Redeye - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:03

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:03
Waco 70 litre
Unknown cable diameter (in vehicle when purchased)
3-4 meters from battery to rear of vehicle (Patrol)
Narva Plug and socket

Have had a number of bad experiences with blade fuses going high resistance due to dissimilar metals used so have installed circuit breakers instead. The HR only showed when the fridge compressor when starting.

Redeye
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Reply By: Old Scalyback & denny - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:38

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:38
goodday samuel
i have an 80l waeco in the back of my patrol i ran 6mm red and black from second battery to a clipsal T plug from T plug to a permanent connection on the waeco power supply and a lead from power supply to fridge (power supply also has 240v input )

steve
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:59

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 19:59
Samuel

I run a 6mm red and black wires from the auxilliary battery to a cig socket and plug the fridges original wires and socket in. I have this set-up in the GQ for the Engel and in the Xtrail for the Waeco. Works for us and have never had a problem

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Reply By: eerfree - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 21:04

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 21:04
SamuelN
I was worried about plugging/unplugging the original plug into the Waeco ( it looks a bit light) so I cut a hole in the airvent on the Mobitronic and installed an Anderson socket which I connected to the output of the Mobitronic now the plug stays connected to the Waeco and I unplug the other end (Anderson plug)from the Mobitronic and connect it to a A plug in the back of the Prado. I do not trust ciggy lighter sockets.

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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 21:18

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 21:18
Not a stupid question at all ,, stupid bit is that this forum has a search function that no one seems to use ,,did this bit ages ago ,but here we go again ,,,
From the WAECO instuction handbook !!
cross section in mmsq ,,not including insulation !!!
4mm upto 2mtr
6mm upto 4mtr
8mm upto 6mtr
10mm upto 8mtr ect ect ect , every extra 2mm sq gives an extra 2mt length with no voltage drop,,,
I have an 80lt Waeco and a 15lt Engle ,,I use 8mm sq from engine bay to fuse box in rear ,,8mm to each fridge ,,NO VOTAGE DROP ..
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:17

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:17
You are exactly correct. I have the same setup and get the same results. Funny that!
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Reply By: Member - Bill F (VIC) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 21:28

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 21:28
Hi,

I use 20 amp 240v 3 core flex from the batteries to two low voltage T series plugs run is about 4 metres. use one plug on one battery the second plug on the secondary battery with common return cable. Cut ENGLE supplied cable short to length and connect T series plug top.
Plug into either battery as required

Also useful to unplug fridge and plug in 300W inverter (also converted to T series plug) for other uses.

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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 21:53

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 21:53
Hey BIll , dont want to put a damper on your evening , but your use of 240v household cable has null and voided any car insurance policy that you may have on that vehicle ,, 240v 3core flex is NOT ADR compliant for 12v use ,ergo your insurance company has an instant OUT of any claim.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bill F (VIC) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:04

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:04
I will follow up with my insurance company in the morning

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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 01:32

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 01:32
They might have an out in the event of a vehicle fire but I doubt they could blame you getting shafted up the rear end by an uninsured driver on the wrong wiring!
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 11:44

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 11:44
I reckon Jack. The 240 volt wire would have to be a contributing factor.
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Reply By: Member - Vincent A M (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:21

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:21
engel
6mm tinned & about 4mtrs & a sontar marine plug (under rated but NEVER had a problem
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Reply By: Member - Barry C (NT) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:36

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:36
8mm cross section wire to anderson plug direct to from battery ie return earth wire,, about 5m long,,, then standard Waeco cable (allows us to move da fridge a bit). No Probs this end.

Baz
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Reply By: Muzzgit (WA) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 00:30

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 00:30
50l waeco.
Twin core 6mm [ I think ] from aux battery [ + inline circuit breaker ] to drivers side of engine bay through to rear panel near tail lights.
Two 2 pin caravan plugs, original waeco cord with an extra 4 ft of 6mm cable.

When we sleep in the Patrol, I put the fridge on the front passenger seat.

Yes, it's stupid I know, the fridge sits on the front passenger seat, about 3 feet from the aux battery, but the cabling does a complete run from the front of the car to the back, and to the front again.

When I had this put in, along with the redarc, it was mainly for the fridge in the back, plus a 12v fluro at night and to run the compressor. I extended the weaco lead so I could put the fridge on the front seat later.
I now only run the compressor direct from the battery because the circuit breaker used to cut out [ 20 amp ] and the compressor didn't run propperly.

My job in the next week or two is to run a cable from the battery to a plug under the glovebox to shorten the whole lot down, and leave the back plugs for fluro and rechargeable gadget re-charging. All joints are soldered except the 2 pin plugs which have screw down connectors.

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Reply By: Member - Jiarna (NT) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 00:41

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 00:41
Yes 110L Waeco
Battery cable (100amp) from aux deep cycle battery to rear of Cruiser (about 4 metres?), then 10mm to Mobitronic B terminals
Waeco-supplied wire from Mobitronic C terminals to plug on fridge.
So the only bit that is not hardwired is the plug on the fridge itself. Works a treat, and I can plug into 240V without having to touch the fridge wiring at all.

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Reply By: Member - Samuel N (QLD) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 07:26

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 07:26
Yeah I know I could have done a search but I didnt relize that somehow I have logged on under a different user I.D. instead of my advertiser I.D so it doesnt show my logo for weipa auto electrics down the bottom. I'm know the in's and out's of cable size but I have been having trouble with a few fridge installs on some vehicles including my own Mine has 6mm 2 core running about 4mtrs but I cant get the fridge to freeze without the error light cutting out the voltage drop is not even near a problem I think I'm coming to the conclusion that waeco's are over sensitive to voltage drop has anyone encountered this problem??
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:27

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:27
Not overly sensitive but do require correct voltage ,, you must remember that the waeco system is essentialy designed to run best at 24v,,the bd 35 and bd50 will tolerate 12v but anything less and problems begin ,,also have you checked the "cooling power "switch setting ? economy =2000rpm ,normal=2500rpm,high=3000rpm and using turbo =3500rpm ,,
the only time we have ever had the error light flash is when had the setting on high and the battery was run down to 11.8v ,,,
acording to the Waeco handbook testing for voltage drop must be done while the unit is under load ,,
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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:46

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:46
Also not unknown for the standard waeco supplied plug to be a bit sus... have heard of more than one problem being fixed by replacing the plug.
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Follow Up By: Member - Samuel N (QLD) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:20

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:20
You may be right alloy c/t but the voltage's arent dropping under 12 and its still cutting out not so bad On mine but on another one I did with a bit longer lead it was a major drama I have also hard wired the 12v plug on the fridge on a 6mm 2 core lead to a clipsal 2 pin plug like I have use on every other instalation I have done before it just seems the later model waecos are realy realy sensitive has anyone got the voltage specs for the optimium running of the bd35 danfoss?
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Monday, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:05

Monday, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:05
MrBitchi has his the problem on the head......I tossed the plug and hardwired the Waeco cord into the vehicle and haven't had a problem since - either using as a freezer or fridge.
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Reply By: Muzzgit (WA) - Saturday, Jun 10, 2006 at 00:34

Saturday, Jun 10, 2006 at 00:34
Now that you mention it, my warning light did come on a few times and was fixed by switching to LOW on the side of the fridge and also earth on 2 pin plug was loose. No drama's since.

Weaco's helpline could be your next port of call. see their website.
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