PDA + GPS

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 13:01
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Hi
I'm looking at getting a PDA that has navigation software and also a PDA, so I can load OziExplorer on it.
I've been looking that the following units

Navman 570
MIO 169

I've also looked at a HP, but I've been burnt big time with a HP laptop which is still a saga.
But I'd like to see what other people are using, like TOMTOM and Destinator software.

Thanks
Neil
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 13:14

Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 13:14
Hi Neil

I run a HP ipaq 2210 with ever a Garmin e-trex or a GPS mouse with bluetooth

both work well, run OziExplorer CE on the PDA, the 2210 has a cf and sd card slots so can hold all the maps I want.

Had it for two years now and have had no problems with it

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Richard
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Reply By: bgreeni - Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 15:17

Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 15:17
I have a HP 4700 with OziCE. I have used both an old magellan 510 with a mess of cables, and now a bluetooth BT 338. The bluetooth works flawlesly and is a great setup. Would highly recomend.
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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 15:24

Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 15:24
Sorry Neil, another vote for the HP ipaq 2210 and I run OziExplorer with a CF GPS. Simple, easy to use and works well.

Matt.
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Reply By: Jarrod - Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 15:31

Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 15:31
Yep, the 2210 here as well. both a cf gps, as well as a blue tooth. Run Ozi, and destinator PN. from most comments, destinator seems better overall than co-pilot, tomtom, navman. - the destinator mapset is based on the sensis autralian geographic survey, and as far as I can tell has been VERY accurate, and detailed compared to co-pilot(which i gave the flick.) - Do a search on this forum, there are heaps of threads... - I know because I have started, and contributed to many of them!!!

Jarrod.
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Follow Up By: Gu_Patrol - Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 22:19

Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 22:19
I think all the maps come from sensis, it all depends on what version you run. I have Garmin City nav V6 and Tom Tom and they use the same maps, even down to the house numbers. Friends of mine have used destinator and found Tom Tom much better
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Follow Up By: Grizzle - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:52

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:52
me too

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Reply By: Member - Drew T (Melbourne) - Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 18:34

Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 18:34
HP4700 with 2Gb SD card, Globalsat BT338, Destinator PN, OziExplorer CE. Everything works really well except the battery life on the 4700 isnt great running bluetooth (but worth it for the lack of cables!!)
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 21:58

Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 21:58
Hi Drew,

That's why I run mine of the cigarette lighter. Full brightness and no power issues.

Actually it's not the bluetooth that limits the battery life but the need to run the screen at full brightness in open daylight in my experience. My bluetooth and wireless networking are on most of the time and I don't have any battery life issues.

You are dealing with a device designed to run sporadically as a pda, not all day as a GPS.

The screen on the hx4700 is fantastic though. Full VGA resolution is great for clean clear maps.

Dave
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Reply By: navaraman - Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 22:20

Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 22:20
I've got a Navman 570 which gets used every day for street navigation for work and also gets used with Ozi off road. It works well for me.

Pat
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Reply By: Old Bushie - Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 23:52

Sunday, Jun 18, 2006 at 23:52
Gday to you all

On a related topic: What battery life are you getting from a BT338 or any of the other popular SIRF III Bluetooth GPS?

I am currently running my Ipaq Hx4700 (in vehicle only) connected to an old Garmin Etrex via a single cigarette lighter plug that splits to power and connect the 4700 and Etrex.

To minimize cables I am considering a CF Card GPS BT337 ie cigarette cable to the 4700 which in turn powers the CF Card GPS.

or

for future flexibility going to a Bluetooth GPS BT338. If I have to pull out another cable to charge the Bluetooth GPS after each days driving it defeats the purpose. The manufacturer claims 17 hours battery life ie charge after each 2 or 3 days driving on the CSR or simillar type driving.

Am interested in your practical experience with battery life.

Regards.
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Follow Up By: bgreeni - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 22:14

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 22:14
I have this setup, HP4700 and BT338. If I think the BT338 battery may be getting low, I simply unplug from 4700 and into Bt338 - The same charger works for both. Leave the 338 on charge for an hour or so with the 4700 running on the battery, and then swap back. Never had a flat battery in either.

Bruce

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Follow Up By: Old Bushie - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 23:50

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 23:50
Thanks bgreeni

How long do you find you get from the BT338 before you think it needs a charge?
Can you drive for a couple of days of say 8 hours before you have to bother.
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Follow Up By: bgreeni - Tuesday, Jun 20, 2006 at 09:32

Tuesday, Jun 20, 2006 at 09:32
I would normally give it a charge each day for an hour or so. Never had it run flat so not sure but it is so easy to swap, why take the chance.
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Reply By: Redback - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 07:52

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 07:52
Hi Neil if you look in THIS LINK you see how to load Oziexplorer files into your Navman PDA/GPS, this is how we do ours and we have never had any dramas at all.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Neil W (NSW) - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 14:00

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 14:00
Mate
How do you find the Navman, is it any good as a PDA and also navigation tool

Thanks for the that
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Follow Up By: Redback - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 15:10

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 15:10
Excellent, never had a drama, always spot on, we have even tested the voice navigation in Ozi-explorer on our Navman works a treat, the accents a bit annoying but you get used to it.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - qld_bushpig - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 17:08

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 17:08
I agree

You can use the keyboard or you can write in freehand and the PDA will recognize the words and convert to text. Word, excell work great as well. I can highly recommend it.

Cheers
Jack
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Reply By: signman - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:04

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:04
HP iPaq 2110 with OziExplorer and Destinator....no problems..
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 12:08

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 12:08
Dell Axim 51 - with OziExplorer CE, and Haicom HI-3-5 GPS (card mouse GPS),and a suction cradle that includes charger. Very smart unit.
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Reply By: Member - qld_bushpig - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 13:28

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 13:28
Hi Neil

I have the Pin 570 Navman and have Mema maps and Raster Premium on my laptop. Because of the size of the Raster maps you must copy the area map from Raster into your 570. This easy to do and once you go to another area remover the map last used and copy over the next map. You can of course use your laptop with a simple GPS USB unit and use the maps as is. Each new area map loads as you move so as to give you continuous maping.

Hope you understand all this. (Took me while and a visit to Hema to get my system setup. Call Des at Oziexplore 0418192983 or Peter and Hema for help.

Cheers
Jack
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Follow Up By: Member - Neil W (NSW) - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 13:59

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 13:59
Mate
How do you find the Navman, is it any good as a PDA and also navigation tool

Thanks for the tips
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Reply By: Willykj - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 17:33

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 17:33
Hi,

I am presently on a trip around Aussie & I bought an Asus 636 PDA - which includes a GPS. It has Co-Pilot navigation & I also use Ozi - both running together & I am extremely happy. No problems whatsoever.

Ozi works well & I have all of Auslig Aussie maps on a 2gc card as well as Cape York and all the Desert Maps. Still have 500mb spare.

The GPS is very sensitive & works anywhere in the vehicle. Was told Co-Pilot was no good away from the cities - but that proved to be rubbish. I havedn't yet found any road in country areas that wasn't included.

Happy with the Asus.

Willy
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Reply By: Member - Darren T (VIC) - Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 18:19

Monday, Jun 19, 2006 at 18:19
G`day Neil

I use a HP5400 with a Navman 3450 sleeve. PDA cost me $350 on Ebay and you can pick up a Navman sleeve from Dick Smith for around $200.

Software -
Smartstreet (comes with the Navman sleeve) for town and city driving because of the turn by turn voice directions.

OziExplorer - for all the offroad stuff, great software, easy to use.

BeelineGPS - Software made for geocaching.

No dramas with it, all runs well. If anything, the battery life isn`t too great (about 2.5 to 3 hours for continuous GPS use, ample for vehicle use, but probably not for bushwalkering / hiking) and the volume level of the PDA isn`t loud enough but can be overcome by turning car stereo off or by using earphones or external speakers.

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