Legalities of an H frame

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 09:57
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I have a problem where I want to carry Kayaks on a Navara duel cap with a high top canopy. I can't fit roof racks to the canopy due to height restrictions into the garage and am concidering fitting an H frame to the bull bar and a rack on to the cab roof.
Does anyone know of any problems this may cause as the vehicle is fitted with air bags and various souces tell me that this could be a problem with any insurance claim in the future. Any body else had this situation?

Cheers Dave
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Reply By: Marc - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 13:07

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 13:07
the actual H frame on the front won't effect the air bag problem as long as it's not attached to the roof racks via a brace. As the bullbar collapses the H frame or T bat will just push back with the bar.
Ensure that the frame sits inside the bullbar as it does FAIL the australian design rules if it's on the outside.
My vehicle has been fitted with them and insurance has not been an issue for us.
Contact your insurance to get them included in your policy and that way you are covered.
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Follow Up By: itsdave - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 16:11

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 16:11
What size tubing is yours made from as the link below says 30mm max. Any setups that I've seen are usually around 40-50 mm and I don" t think 30mm tube would be strong enough and too flexible.
What are your thoughts and thanks for your previous reply.

Dave
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Reply By: HJ60-2H - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 14:18

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 14:18
Anything in the drivers view needs to be less than 30mm in diameter. So H frame material cant be bigger than that.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 16:09

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 16:09
Does that include HF antennas?
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Reply By: HJ60-2H - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 16:30

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 16:30
Yes. It is what guides the placement of the auto tuning bases on HF sets in most cases.
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Reply By: Member - mikeyandmary (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 19:18

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 19:18
We have a hilux dual cab with a canopy and have carried kayaks (4.5m long) a number of times. I'm not sure how high your canopy is compared to the cab.

We used roof racks and Thule Kayak carriers (hull-a-port). These hold the kayaks side on and are much easier to load than the carriers we had before which held the kayaks flat. The hull of the kayaks sit well above the canopy.

Perhaps this provides another option.
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Reply By: richopesto - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 17:04

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 17:04
Hi dave,

I have exactly the same as mikeyandmary, the thule roof racks sit about 11cm? above the roof, and sitting the kayaks sideways in the cradles might be enough to get the rear taper of your kayak over the top of your high canopy.

cheers
richopesto
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