Clutch might be on the way out? Any ideas.

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 17:21
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In all my years of driving (qbout 33), I've never "done" a clutch.

The last 48 hours have been pretty hectic and I've just dashed over to Canberra and back in 48 hours (2500 klm round trip). While I was in Canberra and on their wet, smooth roads, I noticed at one stage that as I stuck the right Blunney into the "go" pedal, the revs went up to about 3 grand (in 4th gear). I thought that maybe the MT/Rs were not gripping too good on the smooth hot mix, but the same thing happened again later, when the road was dry.

Now, I know the Denco Turbo upgrade is a great bit of gear, but I don't think the old 4.2TD is quite capable of spinning the wheels in 4th on bitumen!!! (dream on!!)

So, the only conclusion is that after 197,000klm I might be needing a new clutch soon.

Does anybody have any suggestions as to a stronger, after market clutch for the GU; I don't want a standard Nissan one if I can help it.?

Thanks for your ideas

Cheers

Roachie
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Reply By: MartyB - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 17:36

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 17:36
OK I give up, if the original clutch lasted 197000k what is so wrong with replacing it with a new standard clutch?

Marty.
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Reply By: Des Lexic - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 17:48

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 17:48
Glad to see you back home safe Bill. (Also glad you didn't call in on your way past the other morning too)0:))))
You don't need me to tell you the obvious either. Probably you've already heard it from Pesty
I hope things settle down now too.
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Reply By: mick - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 18:01

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 18:01
hi roachie, had same prob, i fitted a safari dakin heavy duty cluch in my 4.2 my patrols got 800+ foot pound torque from a power up tune done at bisburne turbo and tuning had no probs with new clutch mine started going at 110000
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Follow Up By: Ron George - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 21:57

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 21:57
Hey Mick 800+ ftlb torque from your 4.2..... maaaate ya gotta stop it, you`ll go blind..... but then again I`ll give you the benifit of the doubt..... you were refering to the rateing of the clutch....right?????

Da Pushycat
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Follow Up By: awill4x4 - Tuesday, Jun 27, 2006 at 19:12

Tuesday, Jun 27, 2006 at 19:12
Yeah, considering a full on 372 cubic inch all alloy Donovan/Rodeck block Sprintcar motor producing around 750 bhp makes between 620-650 ft/lbs of torque I think you may be mistaken.
I think what you're quoting is "tractive newtons" and even these "tractive Newtons" quoted by most dyno places are different to the Newton/Metres quoted by manufacturers.
Regards Andrew.
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Reply By: revhead307 - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 18:24

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 18:24
Hi Roachie,

Certainly sounds like it.

The clutch in my old GQ did that twice (500kms from home) and then promply packed up 100kms from civilisation at midnight. So we had an 'interesting' weekend. It died at 310,000kms on the original.

So I wouldnt push your luck as to too many more kms once it starts to go.

Cheers

Rev

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Reply By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 18:31

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 18:31
Roachie,
I would also suggest you explore replacing your original with a Daiken, (I'm ex clutch reconditioning industry). I'm not suggesting that there is anything inherently wrong with genuine Nissan, it's probably re-badged Daiken anyway, however if you shop around you will save yourself some hard earned dollars and have a clutch certainly no less serviceable than a genuine Nissan.

The same scenario for Toyota, Mitsubishi, Isuzu etc:

Regards,

Ian W
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Follow Up By: djpatrol - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 18:56

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 18:56
Whats about the cost of the H/D Daiken would be nice to know Im in for in a short time as I know that Nissan are expensive??
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 09:21

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 09:21
I've been out of the industry too long to give you an indication of current pricing. Check out clutch specialists/reconditioners in your yellow pages for pricing on NEW components. I'm happy to use reconditioned pressure plates in the run of the mill shopping trollies, but would go all new componentry in any 4WD.

Ian
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 21:27

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 21:27
Clutch plate getting thin, or oil getting into that area? That would be obvious though , oil leak under bellhousing!.

The joys of motoring!!

Cheers Axle
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Reply By: Footloose - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 22:22

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 22:22
Roachie, yep its the clutch. And when they go, they go. And you go nowhere. I had mine replaced at 200K as a precautionary measure (I've done em before).
I'd also suggest the h/d deakin clutch, they have a good name with turbos.
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Reply By: GUPatrol - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 00:10

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 00:10
Roachie,
Mine went at exactly the same milage, and same as you I had never ever slipped the clutch but going up a hill one morning (in Canberra too), like yours it revved up in 4th... It never did it again for a while but at 200000kms I replaced it.
I went back to the same genuine one.
The one that came out looked OK, not even worn but apparently the pressure plate had lost a bit of pressure.
I decided to do it even though it only splipped once because I remember a friend with a GQ 4.2 diesel, his went on a trip to the bush and had to be towed out, in other words, when they go they go as was previously mentioned.
Will
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:07

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:07
Thank you to everybody who responded......looks like I'm up for a replacement. I'm not gunna take any chances......I go bush every 2nd weekend or so and can't risk having it collapse on me 'out there' somewhere!!!!

Cheers blokes

Roachie
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Reply By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 09:06

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 09:06
Bill,

Look at it this way, yours lasted 90,000 more than mine! Daikin is now Exedy. Info on their website. Looks to me like they supply Nissan. You apparently need to check the flywheel - mine was OK thankfully. Repair cost for the clutch was about $1,100.

Cheers

Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:15

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:15
Thanks Peter,
Just what i needed to know!!!! $1,100- for something I can't even add to my list of gear under my Member Profile!!!! hahahahaha
Bugga
Roachie
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 10:31

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 10:31
Roachie,
I've always bought clutches from Adelaide Clutch at Torrensville

They stock the genuine quality stuff, and all the other aftermarket alternatives.

Don't forget to have the spigot bearing replaced, and get the flywheel refaced as well.

Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:13

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:13
Thanks Phil,
I just rang and they quoted me $485- for the parts.
Does this sound about right?
Thanks
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 17:11

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 17:11
Sounds about normal, but I haven't bought a Patrol clutch before. I tend to look at quality rather than the price with clutches. I'm guessing they are quoting for a new rather than reconditioned pressure plate.

Cheers
Phil
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:09

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:09
Hi Bill

You don't have a guage fitted for that???

hahaha

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:12

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:12
I do ...........................but the bloody needle fell off it last week!!! hahahaha
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Reply By: G.T. - Tuesday, Jun 27, 2006 at 11:58

Tuesday, Jun 27, 2006 at 11:58
Get your hydralic system overhauled at the same time -- ie re kit both cylinders . This will give you peace of mind as a new clutch has a higher pressure than your old one and this will give your hydralic system a work out and will evevtually fail further down the track, usually when you least expect it. Regards G.T.
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