Hilux Tyres
Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 12:34
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Plantman
I know I know that bloody tyre subject.
Just want to know from Hilux owners about oversized tyres. I've got 16" rims on my 04 SR5 with 265/70-R16 tyres which works out to be 39 mm larger in diameter than the original 255/70-R15 tyres. As far as I can tell then is that these are essentially illegal since the apparent law is 15 mm larger only, on diameter.
Does anyone know any different. Like whether 16" rims are actually legal on 04 SR5 Hilux cause if they are then does this mean you can't have a standard 70 profile tyre cause you'll be over 15 mm for sure.
Cheers
Reply By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 14:11
Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 14:11
You can do all your diameter differences etc via this web site.
www.101tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp
I have 17" wheels and tires on my 05 Hilux and they work out to be around 5% bigger in rolling diameter, speedo adjusted to suit etc. This was all done by the dealer.
Any more specific questions should be made to an authorised tire outlet I would think.
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Follow Up By: Plantman - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 14:54
Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 14:54
Yeah I've got the difference in diameter being 39 mm and that's why I've just asked for other people's experience cause with the apparent law being up to 15 mm then I'm guessing they are illegal.
If you 05 hilux has a difference of 5% that too will be over 15 mm on diameter and therefore illegal too according to the apparent law. Or has the dealer told you different? What about your insurance?
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 15:08
Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 15:08
I think the key here is to use your exact words "The Apparent Law" . I don't know of an exact law on tires and their diameters, perhaps someone could shed some light. My primary concern was sticking within a 5% increase, I ended with that exactly. I specified 17" wheels as being an optional extra fitted, the insurance co didn't want to know anything else. Sticking within the 5% tolerance on rolling diameter meant that the vehicle would not suffer in any way shape or form, in fact we know better tires and wheels will improve the vehicles handling if done correctly. I understand your concern , if you choose a 16" package that is a little different in rolling diameter , but only 2-3% different I don't think you should worry about it. My other concern was the speedo for obvious reasons, this was adjusted by the dealer before delivery. My tint shade on my windows may be slightly illegal to, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. LOL
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Follow Up By: Plantman - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 16:09
Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 16:09
My diameter difference is 5.07% according to the 1010Tire calculator.
Thing is I rang the insurance company the other day to ask about it and they said I need to find out whether the manufacturer says it's legal. Rang Toyota and they said I need to ask tyre place. Rang tyre place and they said 15 mm and that my tyres are therefore technically illegal. Now I'm supposed to go back to the insurance company and tell them they're illegal which sucks cause no doubt that'll have consequences on insurance bill after it's re-assessed. Shoulda bloody not even rang em I'm thinkning now as it's been noted down, but I just want to get it all square for piece of mind knowing that I'm not going to get shafted If I need to claim one day.
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 16:16
Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 16:16
Don't panic, nothing would have been noted down. The differences are so small whose going to know. Do you think someone's gunna grab a wheel size, tire size , tire size calculator and then research the original specs to try and figure the difference..?? Don't think so. Stick with common wheels and tires and no one will care. If you are worried about the insurance company change to another one next time renewals are due, it is a nothing issue in my opinion and you should just say nothing. Just don't let it bother you
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Follow Up By: Plantman - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 17:55
Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 17:55
Found out more info. Beaurepaires have advised that in QLD the law is ±26 mm on diamter and ±15 mm on width as being legal. Different for other states. Again another apparent law that is contradictory. Anyhow that puts my tyres still over by some 13 mm - apparently. Let's see what the insurance company says as it was too late the minute I first called them and discussed it as they did note it. Funny thing is their policy was to put it on me to find out whether they were legal or not and get back to them. So one has to wonder whether if I merely went back and said "yep they're legal" would that have actually close the issue and ensured I wouldn't get stung if I had a claim? Seems crazy. Furthermore it obviously passed roadworthy when I bought it. Gotta laugh.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 17:59
Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 17:59
Of course it is your job to prove that your vehicle is legal & represents a reasonable underwriting risk.
In answer to TerraFirmas comments, no they won't "grab a wheel size, tire size , tire size calculator and then research the original specs to try and figure the difference." UNTIL you have an accident & they investigate the claim, then they are
well within their rights to refuse it!
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Follow Up By: Plantman - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 18:44
Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 18:44
That's why I'm trying to get it squared up with them even though they'd have probably never noticed. Better safe than sorry.
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Follow Up By: dornbus - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 22:51
Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 22:51
Hi,
We all should know that most, if not ALL insurance companies will VOID ur insurance for ANYTHING they can!!!! REMEMBER...
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Follow Up By: Member - qld_bushpig - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 10:11
Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 10:11
All policies state that you must inform them of matters relating to the risk. If you don't they will not payout.
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 10:35
Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 10:35
I wonder how many vehicles are on the road fully insured that have tires slightly over spec , give or take a few mm..?? Humm, have we all heard the word PLENTY..? Now we all hate insurance companies but I'm curious as to how many times an insurance company has not paid on a claim because tires were a few mil too big..? But hey don't stop at tires, why not include engine mods,
suspension mods and the rest that no doubt void insurance policies..? What about lift kits, how legal are they..?? The reality is tires that are slightly larger by a few mm will never be picked up on by an insurance company, otherwise there would be thousands of claims not being paid and a nationwide uproar.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 17:03
Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 17:03
Why would there be an uproar, when the insured party would clearly be in the wrong?
As qld_bushpig said ..... "All policies state that you must inform them of matters relating to the risk. If you don't they will not payout."
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 10:46
Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 10:46
Shaker, Whatever. Anyhow they accepted the changes to his vehicle even though the tires were a little too big, which was my point, they don't care if it is a few mill here and there.
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