AGM Batteries

Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 09, 2006 at 20:07
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Hi There,

Has anyone had any dealings with "power sonic" AGM batteries???

If so what are your experiences????

Thanks
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Aug 09, 2006 at 20:12

Wednesday, Aug 09, 2006 at 20:12
No experience with Powersonic, sounds like they are sold in 25 countries. Within these forums Fullriver are recommended as popular along with Remco but I see no reason why the Powersonic wouldn't be any good. The best way to get what you want is to establish your AH rating , application etc and shop it around via the major brands.
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Aug 09, 2006 at 20:28

Wednesday, Aug 09, 2006 at 20:28
Just came across the Fullriver 12v 120AH AGM battery for only $208, now that is very well priced.

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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 09, 2006 at 21:17

Wednesday, Aug 09, 2006 at 21:17
I got my HGL120 from LMC in Newcastle for about $280 - dang terra, that's a good price !!!

However, I can't recommend LMC www.lakecomm.com.au/ highly enough - great service, great advice - nice guys.
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Follow Up By: fruers - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:17

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:17
Also remember that Gee-Tek prices don't include GST and have pretty hefty shipping charges. Still good prices but worth keeping in mind.

Jonathan
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:30

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:30
Yes good point Jonathan however in this instance total price was $235.08 Inc GST delivered free to Port Melbourne or Melbourne as agreed by Keerin Black. So very happy as my remco 100ah cost me $269 and I had to pick it up.
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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Wednesday, Aug 09, 2006 at 20:59

Wednesday, Aug 09, 2006 at 20:59
Powersonic are Ok.

I sell Vision and Supercharge.

Both are very good.

Check the warranty when buying but most AGM's are good.



Regards Derek.
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Follow Up By: phillowe - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:30

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:30
Hi Derek,

Hope you can answer a question for me.......can AGM batteries be used for cranking? It seems everyone I talk to has a different view on this. I will only be using it to start a RAV4 so I would think the load would not be that great. Many people on the forum here say they use them to crank without a problem. The main reason I want to go this way is so I don't have to go down the path of a dual battery system.

What is your opinion??

Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:20

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:20
Have a look at the CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) rating for the AGM - make sure it is at least as big as your existing battery.
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Follow Up By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:29

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:29
Most are around 900 cca. Rav 4 no problem.
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Follow Up By: phillowe - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:36

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:36
Hi Derek,

I have been looking at the PS-12750 see data sheet www.power-sonic.com/ but it does not have a CCA rating, although it say it will deliver 750 amperes for 10 sec or 225 for 7 minutes which makes me think this would be fine....humour me if I am wrong in assuming this :-)

Phil
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Follow Up By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:41

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:41
Yes that sounds right for a 75 a/h battery.

My 90 a/h ones are 900 cca
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Follow Up By: phillowe - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:42

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:42
So let me see....the figures I stated (750 amperes for 10 sec) equates to 750 CCA??
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:55

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:55
CCA is defined as "the amount of current a battery can provide at −18 °C for 30 seconds and maintain at least 7.2 volts".

The capability of a battery drops to about half at this temperature, so a battery rated at 900CCA would be able to deliver closer to 1500 amp at 25 degrees.
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Follow Up By: phillowe - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:59

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:59
So does this mean the battery described above will have no issue cranking the RAV???
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 12:05

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 12:05
I suppose the RAV4 would actually draw around 100 amps on starting, so the battery will certainly start it, without shortening its life drastically.

All this means is that when the battery gets old and it's -18 degrees, it won't work as well as a Starting Battery :-)
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:46

Thursday, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:46
You can buy the hybrid AGM batteries which are a cross between a cranking and deep cycle battery. The Optima Yellow and Bluetop are an example of this, otherwise you can get 800-900 CCA from various 120AH AGM's I have seen.
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Friday, Aug 11, 2006 at 16:58

Friday, Aug 11, 2006 at 16:58
The Fullriver HGL-120B 120AH battery is 750CCA according to Fullriver Taiwan who thankfully replied to an email. I think no one wouldbuy this battery as a starter however it's always handy to know how much cranking capacity you have.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Aug 11, 2006 at 17:25

Friday, Aug 11, 2006 at 17:25
No one would buy it as a starter ,, maybe maybe not , I use a Fullriver 80amp AGM HGL as the starter in our 80 series turbo diesel , been in there for the last 2yrs and never a problem. The written/factory specs are not always the be all and end all in "real" use.
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