Three Stage Battery Chargers
Submitted: Thursday, Mar 06, 2003 at 15:28
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Rod
Hi
I'm interested to know of people's experience with 3 stage controllers (bulk-absorbtion-float) on either their vehicle alternator or 240V battery chargers. I'd like details on makes, models, approx costs and whether you think they are worth it.
eg. Has anyone successfully retrofitted a 3 stage charge controller to a typical automotive alternator (internal sensing) as opposed to throwing it away and getting a marine type with the controller included ?
Also, can I expect to buy a decent 3 stage charger for charging my batteries from mains for around $100 or am I dreaming ?
What is to stop me putting a 5a 15V transformer and rectifier in front of my 6A Stecca SolSum 3 stage solar regulator and using that at
home on mains to keep my 105AH deep cycle charged ?
Opinions anyone ?
Reply By: paul - Friday, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:36
Friday, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:36
Rod
One more thing - Transformers usually put out about 12.00 volts or thereabouts because their main purpose is to run an appliance. However, to recharge a battery you need ideally about 13.4 volts or higher but not higher than say 15.00 volts. So if your transformer only puts out a standard 12.0 volts you are not going to get anything charger, better
check that out with a multimeter and mayber get a purpose built battery charger and slot your Steca in between.
By the way - did you ever get the instruction booklet translated into English ? If so, can you put up a summary of the combinations of flashing lights (but i bet you did the intelligent thing and got the LED readout model).
Good luck.
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Reply By: Rod - Friday, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:54
Friday, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:54
Paul
Thanks. I am aware of the need to have > 12v out of the transformer and was aiming to use 15V as my BP Solar cells put out a nominal 16V to the Stecca. DSE sell such a transformer.
I'm now worried that 5A may be useless if trying to charge the battery up from a state of say 20% capacity. I've seen figures that indicate the charger should be rated at 10-30% of the AH rating of the battery. For my 105AH Trojan, this means > 10A. Given I've got the 6A Stecca, I don't want to go above 5A input to it. Maybe I should have bought a bigger stecca ?
My Stecca has the two LEDs and whilst the top multicoloured one is easy to interpret I must admit that the bottom one is sometimes steady, and sometimes flashes at different intervals. Do you have a similar model and have you worked out the bottom LED ?
Thanks
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Follow Up By: Member - Nigel - Saturday, Mar 08, 2003 at 22:51
Saturday, Mar 08, 2003 at 22:51
Your right there - 5A will take more than twice as long to charge as 10A would. I've got an 8A 3 stage mains charger (see my reply to the main question) and it is on the small side for my 90 Ah deep cycle.
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Reply By: paul - Friday, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:31
Friday, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:31
Nope to the bottom light - but someone where i work has just started and i heard she speaks and reads fluent french so i'll be pulling the manual out this weekend.
The 10% rule is the maximum, not the "recommended" as anything higher for a wet lead acid battery can cause the acid to bubble which may cause the plates to warp which will wreck them - my understanding is that so long as the voltage is correct, the lower the current charging rate the better as it allows deeper and steadier penetration of the plates. So i honestly believe you will be fine if you have the voltage correct, just might take longer to charge the battery than if being charged at 10% but if it is just sitting at
home then there is no problem.
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Reply By: Member - Nigel - Saturday, Mar 08, 2003 at 22:46
Saturday, Mar 08, 2003 at 22:46
I use a LEAB Champ 8 amp charger (coz I couldn't afford the 17 amp model).
It's a mains switch mode 3 stage program charger, that works from 170-260 volts, 40-60 amps (ie will cope with generator or other poor power supplies). It's epoxy filled and fully waterproof so will cope with offroading (we use it to charge the trailer and topup the aux in the vehicle).
The price was
well over $100 - more like $400. But
well worth it for me as I have 3 deep cycle batteries that will probably last more than twice as long due to proper charging.
Some solar regulators don't like any capacitance in the power supply but a straight transformer/rectifier without filtering should work fine.
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