best diff for beach sand?

Submitted: Tuesday, Mar 11, 2003 at 20:33
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I am considering buying a new 4wd, probrably a new patrol or hilux. I own a '91 2.8 Hilux now but it "crabs" a lot on the beach, mostly when having to drive along the side of dunes. I suspect the severity of the sideways "crabbing" is due to the type of lsd on board ie spring loaded clutch type. Can someone tell me the best drive train setup for the beach, and what 4wd's come with this setup (or can be modified to )
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Reply By: Truckster - Tuesday, Mar 11, 2003 at 21:09

Tuesday, Mar 11, 2003 at 21:09
Have you tried letting your tires down?
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Reply By: Froilan - Tuesday, Mar 11, 2003 at 21:29

Tuesday, Mar 11, 2003 at 21:29
Agree with truckster Steve. Even some soft-roaders go well in the sand when the tyre pressures are down. I've seen Patrol's, Prado's, even Landcruiser's get stuck in sand, and if you look for a common cause, driver's go in from bitumen to sand without letting the tyre pressure down. Seeing a Pathy pulling a sand-bogged 'cruiser says much about driving techniques. Nothing much to do on how good the lsd is.
Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Tuesday, Mar 11, 2003 at 21:48

Tuesday, Mar 11, 2003 at 21:48
" Even some soft-roaders go well in the sand when the tyre pressures are down. I've seen Patrol's, Prado's, even Landcruiser's get stuck in sand, and if you look for a common cause, driver's go in from bitumen to sand without letting the tyre pressure down"


Ive gone further out Kurnell Sand Hills (1985 when there was hills) in a HT Holden than most 4wds would go.... Day in Day out, they would get the bleep s with you when you would offer to tow them out!
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Follow Up By: Steve M - Wednesday, Mar 12, 2003 at 17:45

Wednesday, Mar 12, 2003 at 17:45
I have had the tyres down (to 10-25psi depending on conditions) in an empty hilux tray back but it still behaves badly. Other 4wd's dont seem to have as much of a problem with "swaying" or "crabbing" which made me suspect the lsd/drive train could be not the best for the conditions. Any thoughts?
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Wednesday, Mar 12, 2003 at 22:37

Wednesday, Mar 12, 2003 at 22:37
ahhhh an empty tray with no weight over the ass end to hold it down will slide easier than a wagon/swb etc...
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Reply By: sensei - Tuesday, Mar 11, 2003 at 23:48

Tuesday, Mar 11, 2003 at 23:48
but you would only do that to rub salt into the wound truckster....mind you I proberly would do the same..haha.
I have been bogged in the sand only to remember the moment I got bogged that the tyre pressure was still at 30 +...stupid and a little red faced when asking to be pulled out....bugger
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Wednesday, Mar 12, 2003 at 16:15

Wednesday, Mar 12, 2003 at 16:15
Damn right it was to rub it in... the car had no doors, or boot lid, no windows, cost us $50, and in the 4 yrs it ran, cost us under $150 in total!

Twas like a farm car, used to carry the locals(us) out to Boat Harbour Beach, the waterholes in the sandhills, or Grasshills for overnight camps and lots of drinking and getting smashed!!!


Yas should have let your tires down unless you were buried to the ringhole, ya should still have made it out!
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