3L Patrol Oil Change
Submitted: Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 18:10
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Hacksaw
Thinking of changing the oil and filter in my Patrol. Only problem is I'm not what you would call mechanically minded, so I'm just after a few tips.
Planning on getting genuine Nissan oil and filter cartridge, but is there anything else I need before I go ahead with it. Also, can anyone suggest how much I should expect to pay for the required bits and pieces.
Thanks heaps.
PS: Only planning an oil change,not an engine change, so no 3L detractors, thanks.
Reply By: Notso - Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 18:30
Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 18:30
You should be able to get 2 X 5 litres of Genuine Nissan Oil and a filter for about $110.
You will need a Half Inch socket short extension bar and tension wrench for the Oil Filter Housing as it has a Half Inch Square Socket. and a suitable socket for the Oil Drain Plug.
Something to drain the oil into and make sure you warm up the engine before you drain the oil. Careful of the hot oil when you remover the plug.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 18:37
Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 18:37
............................... and don't lose the sump plug washer!
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 18:46
Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 18:46
............Make sure the container your draining into is lined up right!
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Follow Up By: Wazza - (Vic) - Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 20:03
Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 20:03
.... and make sure that container is big enough to take all the oil in the sump!
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Follow Up By: Notso - Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 20:30
Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 20:30
OH and I forgot,
Make sure you put the Sump Plug back in before you pour the oil in the top. I did that with the Mini Minor when I was 19.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 20:39
Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 20:39
Thats if you can remember where you put the bloody thing!!, my recent epidsode.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 21:33
Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 21:33
Notso, $110? Geez your Nissan dealer is takin you fora ride! I pay no more than $70 for same and that also includes a new copper sump washer.
He had a special the other month for filters - $19 so I grabbed a couple. I don't ask they just tell me these specials.
Leroy
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Follow Up By: Notso - Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 22:09
Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 22:09
That's about what I paid last service. AH
well he won't be doing it any more, got rid of the Nissan the other day, now the proud owner of a Mitsubishi Triton Twin Cab.
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Reply By: Muzzgit - Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 18:45
Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 18:45
Sump plug is 20mm spanner. Be carefull with the oil tray you put underneath. They only hold about 6L but it will drop over 8L. Next problem is having containers to put the old oil in, and please don't put them in the bin as some people do.
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Reply By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 18:59
Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 18:59
When changing the oil in our 80 series I drain it straight from the sump via a funnel to the empty 10 litre oil drum from the previous oil change then to the recycling point at the local tip. Of course you need an empty drum first.
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Reply By: blown4by - Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 19:36
Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 19:36
I pay $24.40 inc GST for the genuine Nissan oil filter P/No. NI-15209-2W200AU and change the oil every 10k as per the manual using
Mobil Synth 'S' 10W-40 grade which is a semi synthetic oil and meets the Nissan spec which states the oil spec should be CF-4 or lower. I wouldn't get carried away with the "genuine" Nissan oil because they only buy it from an oil Company which packages it for them with a Nissan label on it, but if it makes you feel better by all means use it and I understand it is not all that badly priced anyway. A couple of points to watch are when you fit the new 'O' ring to the filter housing don't "roll" it on and make sure it is not twisted in the groove in the housing which will tend to make it want to roll out of place when you tighten the filter canister. Also put some clean engine oil or clean grease on the 'O' ring before re-installing the canister as this will help it stay put rather than tend to "pick-up" and want to roll out of the groove as the canister threaded section enters the housing on the block. Secondly the filter element is the old fashioned pleated felt type which tend to squash easily so when you fit the element on to the guide at the end of the canister so again use some clean oil and twist and "guide" it on to the guide at the bottom of the canister before re-fitting the canister that way you are sure all is
well before re-fitting the canister rather than just poke it in the and screw the canister back on the engine and hope for the best that it all lines up and the element is in its proper place.
CAUTION: One last point. The bottom edge aluminium heat shield around the turbo is phreakin sharp so when you fit your half inch bar to the canister to undo it and pull the bar up the canister will let go with a jerk so make sure you place the bar away from that heat shield or use a short extension because I can promise you the heat shield is very sharp and I have the hunk of meat missing from the back of my right hand to prove it:-(
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 23:38
Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 23:38
Can't believe i've read this!!. the last time i changed a canister type oil filter was 30yrs ago in a david brown tractor!!. good advice given there mate , for the job at hand.........jeezus even landys have got spin on filters HAHA!
Cheers Axle
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Follow Up By: hl - Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 06:59
Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 06:59
That's a european "green" requirement. The theory is that spin on filters contain a significant quantity of oil when they are thrown out and that may end up in land fill.
So, it's not so "old fashioned" now to have a cartridge type filter.
Cheers
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Reply By: wazzaaaa - Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 20:26
Saturday, Sep 16, 2006 at 20:26
Just digtessing a bit, but the turbo guy down the road was telling me with the new 3l patrol replacing the injectors will cost $2000 each, you can not buy kits for them. Has any one else heard this?
Wazza
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit - Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 15:10
Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 15:10
No they are not $2000 each. It should be $2000 for the 4 of 'em. Needless to say thay are a non-servicable item, and if suspect, they are thrown away.
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Reply By: wazzaaaa - Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 16:58
Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 16:58
Hi Hachsaw,
Was talking to him again and he still says $2000 each also named discovery and a few others above $1000 each but then I sold my diesel so I don't have to worry any more.
Wazza
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Follow Up By: wazzaaaa - Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 16:59
Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 16:59
That was a reply intended for Muzzgit, sorry
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Reply By: Old Scalyback & denny - Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 18:17
Sunday, Sep 17, 2006 at 18:17
goodday hacksaw
1 small item you wil lprobably need a copper washer for the sump plug
steve
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Reply By: PhilZD30Patrol - Monday, Sep 18, 2006 at 08:47
Monday, Sep 18, 2006 at 08:47
Hi There
I own a ZD30 and always do my own oil changes.
My local Nissan dealer mechanic says that Nissan now recommend change the engine oil and filter every 5,000 kms.
They also now recommend 10W - 40 CF or CF-4 semi synthetic oil.
Never use CG or SG engine oil.
Always replace the copper washer on the sump drain plug.
Draining the oil filter can take up to 15 minutes.
Fitting the new cartridge and O ring is very simple just do it with clean hands and take care. (and think about how it cost about $0.25 cents to make and pack it SE Asia at slave labour rates and costs about $26 to $32 depending on the mood of the retailer). If you have any trouble ask any old guy over 60 who owned a 52 - 60 Morris Minor, as far as I know thats when cartridge oil filters became obsolete.
Be patient and take it easy. Doing it your self will save you heaps of money and you know it has been done correctly.
Which makes me wonder how many of us have paid huge dollars to the authorised Dealers for new filters not fitted and checks, adjustments and works never performed?
good luck
Phil
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