driving lights

Submitted: Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003 at 21:02
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im in the market for a set of driving lights
been to the dealers but im after a some
independent advice any help would be great

cheers
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Reply By: rickwagupatrol - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003 at 21:29

Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003 at 21:29
hiya darren.

besides the obvious of driving at night, what do you want them for?
offroad or just on the bitumen?
and what sort of car are you putting them on?

rick
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Reply By: jaycee - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003 at 21:35

Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003 at 21:35
A recent Aust 4X4 mag article tested 9 different manufacturers lights. The result of their testing was that the Narva Ultima 175 was the best performer and out performed other more expensive brands. They were a matched pair with one being a driving light the other being a spot. They came ready wired and were priced at RRP $190 for the pair. I'm personally running a pair of Hella Rallye 4000 with xenon globes and modified reflectors, expensive at over $200 per light if you purchase retail but with the modified reflectors paired with the high output xenon globes are awesome. Value for money i'd go with the magazines recomendation.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003 at 21:46

Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003 at 21:46
and a few months before that, another mag had a test, which was nearly the 100% opposite..

Advertising $$ talks, note the full page ads after the tests.
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Follow Up By: sean - Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 18:24

Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 18:24
Jaycee

I have also Ralleye 4000 and find them to be very good. I also had Ralleye 2000 on another vehicle and every 15000ks the mounts would fatigue crack and would need to be replaced. At least the parts were always available. The mounts on the 4000's are superb.

I am not sure how lightforce would go if I hit an eagle with them. All that plastic just does not seem strong enough.

Can you tell me about the modified reflector as this is the first I have heard of it.

Thanks

Sean
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 20:04

Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 20:04
" I am not sure how lightforce would go if I hit an eagle with them. All that plastic just does not seem strong enough. "

Cheezy has rolled his Maverick over 2 times onto his lightforces on the roof of his car, and never broken one of them.. Once at Tuff Truck, and once at another comp I cant think of at the moment..

Strong enough?!?!!
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Follow Up By: Brian - Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 22:11

Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 22:11
Have just changed from 2 ralle 2000's + 1 Hella bull light to 2 lightforce 240's they are as good if not better cost $330 the pair, one 2000 would be that!!!
Brian
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 22:55

Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 22:55
wanna sell the bull light ?? I need a good light for reversing!

Yup $330 is the price to get em for, I ended up getting 15 odd pairs at that price... they still have the $415 pricetag on them too!
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Follow Up By: Brian - Thursday, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:08

Thursday, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:08
Yeh I bargined them down to $330(+$20 freight) from $440 was not that hard. Yes I will be selling all the old lights don't know what they are worth?????
Brian
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Reply By: Truckster - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003 at 21:37

Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003 at 21:37
I had Rally 2000's one spot one spread, now have lightforce 240's and would NEVER go back!!!!!

So much different its nuts!

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Follow Up By: CHRIS - Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:01

Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:01
I have a pair of Narva 175 spots and use a SL 240 spotlight when shooting. It is an excellant spotlight, but when you converge the spot light into the path of the Narvas at night you cannot tell the difference even though the 240 has a Xenon globe in it.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:57

Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:57
Thats amazing, since Ive sat behind a mate with them Narva things on his MQ, and high beamed and you can see lots more around the place with mine. I do have good wiring and not the standard covers on the lightforces. I have the Combo covers on which made heaps o difference in the end compared to stock ones.
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Reply By: willie - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003 at 22:37

Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003 at 22:37
i have liteforce 240's & rate them as the best light for the best price available & they are AUSTRALIAN MADE & they are fully ajustable from spot to spread & i could go on !
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Reply By: toonfish - Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 00:33

Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 00:33
go for the Narva 175 but dont pay over $145 or you are being ripped
they are not full on but do a great job when used in combo ie-pencil and broadbeam .
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Reply By: Member - dolfn - Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:31

Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:31
I have the Narva 175, they cost only $130 through repco!

Land Rover use the same light just with their badge on it for there driving light kit. The wiring is a lot more robust with their setup, but it is the same light.

Very good value and compared with a mates Ralleye 2000. The are a fuller and clearer light with more range.

I asked a similar question a month ago!!!!
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Reply By: Member - Rohan K - Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:21

Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:21
... and which vehicle is better?
... and which A/T tyre is better?
... and is a PTO winch better than an electric winch, better than a hand winch?
... and ...

Boy Darren, what were you thinking?

Anyway, here's my 2 cents worth. There are good lights and better lights. There are no lights that make your lighting worse. Generally the better lights cost more than the good lights, but not always. So, be honest, what do you really need? A light that gives you improved visibility at moderate speeds in the outback/bush out to about 300 metres, or a light that will let you see a kilometre ahead at high speed highway cruising? Base you decision on the performance you really need, the frequency you'll really need it and the amount you are willing to spend. Then go shopping. When you do, spend a little extra on a high quality, heavy duty, wiring loom to get the most out of whatever light you choose. Good luck.
Be good, or be quick.
Rohan
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Follow Up By: Brian - Thursday, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:21

Thursday, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:21
True! Lightforce prove that money is not the key to preformance!
8 years ago I spent nearly $1000 on hellas, have not spent a cent on panel beating since. Prior to that $6000 to the panel beater. I believe that being able to see out 500m to 1000m makes all the diference to safe night driving. I will now never go back to mediaoker lights
My 2¢ worth
Brian
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Reply By: jaycee - Thursday, Mar 20, 2003 at 21:57

Thursday, Mar 20, 2003 at 21:57
Sean.
The lights are std 4000 when they start but the reflectors are reshaped here in CHCh to computer specs. The reasoning is that when lights are generally manufactured the design starts at the light. The redesign starts on the basis of where do you want the light to be, then they work back to the light to obtain the correct reflector pattern. The xenon globes are chucked in to give added brightness and penetration. The result is a much improved spread and distance.
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