fridge wiring

Submitted: Friday, Jan 05, 2007 at 17:43
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Derek, would you say the wiring in a new windsor van to the fridge from the the 7 pin plug is ok? it looks thicher than the other wires.
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Reply By: herkman - Friday, Jan 05, 2007 at 19:43

Friday, Jan 05, 2007 at 19:43
Hi there!

The wire needs to be thicker than the rest, because the frig can draw 10 amps when operating.

However you can really only run the fridge, when you are running the engine, or it will quickly flatten the battery.

When we bought our Roadstar, they wanted $1500, to put a battery in the van, that would be recharged as we went along.

Cheapest way to do it would be to put a second battery in the tow vechicle, but as we did not have the room to do so, put the battery into the van.

That cost us in total about $380, including a smart charger, which floats the battery whenever we have 240 volts.

Now do yourself a big favour, remove the vents from the outside of the van, and ensure that the DC wire going to the fridge, is that same heavy wire all the way to the fridge connection. If it does not, please replace it, most caravans I have looked at, have the last meter of wire in light cable only.

Regards

Col
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Reply By: Mainey (WA) - Friday, Jan 05, 2007 at 19:51

Friday, Jan 05, 2007 at 19:51
slush, does Derek know the diameter of the actual cable in question ? ?

Question: what electronic item in the van draws the most current when running?

Answer: Fridge
that's the reason it has to have a thicker independent cable running direct from the power source with a decent in-line fuse.
IMO the 7 pin plug connection is too small for the power requirements of a fridge cable, considering the cable distance, which should be run independently and using an anderson plug connection/disconnection system at the rear bumper bar.
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Reply By: Ozrover - Friday, Jan 05, 2007 at 20:30

Friday, Jan 05, 2007 at 20:30
My Goldsteam camper came with the fridge wired to the 7 pin plug with 14 gauge wire, I've since rewired it to the on board battery & connected the battery to the car through a 50 amp Anderson plug using 8 gauge wire.

I hope this is the correct way of doing it?? 8 )>
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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Friday, Jan 05, 2007 at 20:51

Friday, Jan 05, 2007 at 20:51
Hi Slush

I have found most caravan wiring to be too light. I am not sure of the size and wiring on your van but although some manufacturers fit a 6mm2 positive they use a lower grade negative or the negative is used for lighting as well as the fridge.

This causes lighting and voltage problems. It would be best to inspect all the wiring from the car battery all the way right back to the fridge as has been suggested by others.

If you run the fridge for a few hours and then run your hand over the wires, fuses and plugs check for anything that is warm. This would indicate a problem.

I always fit Anderson Plugs and isolators in this situation.

Regards

Derek.
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Follow Up By: Ozrover - Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 09:32

Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 09:32
Derek.

I've just bought a "Steed" battery isolator from Jaycar, I intend to mount this on the camper to isolate the camper battery from the car.

The isolator has three posts, Batt 1, Alternator, Batt 2.

Where do I pick the "alternator" wire from?? I was thinking of using the auxiliary wire from the 7 pin connector, will this work, or is there somewhere else that I should use??

I'm assuming that the alternator wire is just to switch the isolator open or closed, is this correct??

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Follow Up By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 11:10

Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 11:10
Hi Ozrover

I would take the Steed back for a credit. They are known for voltage drop and I would not mount one so far back.

It would be best to mount a Redarc, ABR, arb, TJM or any other isolator under the bonnet and run heavy wire to rear trailer via Anderson plugs not the 7 pin.

If you must use the Steed expect a very slow trickle charge. You would ignore battery post #2 and wire the camper battery to battery post #1. The incoming power from the car would go to the ALT post. (I don't recommend using this product in your application)

Regards

Derek.
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Follow Up By: Ozrover - Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 15:21

Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 15:21
Derek.

Thanks for that!

I've already got a TJM dual battery isolator under the bonnet running to a 120 ah deep cycle battery in the back of the Disco', I've taken 8g wire from the rear battery to an Anderson plug on the bumper.

I don't mind if the power from the car to the camper is only a trickle charge as we will be covering some long distances on our trip around Oz'.

What I want is to maintain the charge in the camper battery (REMCO 105 ah AGM) while we are driving, when parked (camping etc..) I will be using either 240 ac or running the EU 20 Honda genny through a CTEK charger to charge the camper battery.
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Follow Up By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 15:27

Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 15:27
Hi Ozrover

Very good that you have the Anderson plug and heavy wire there already.

Just fit the same wire and a plug to the camper and you are set.

Don't use the steed at all. Fit a auto reset 50 amp breaker in its place. $8.00 and the isolator in the car will do what it must.

Regards

Derek.
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Follow Up By: Ozrover - Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 15:35

Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 15:35
Thanks Derek.

Too easy, should have asked first!! 8 )>

Looks like a trip back to Jaycar to do some swapsies!
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Reply By: Keith_A (Qld) - Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 03:55

Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 03:55
Hi Slush - have a look at this page, http://www.caravanandmotorhomebooks.com/articles/wiring_woes.htm, and then other articles by Collyn, on that site. He explains in detail how to select the correct cable size.
Remember the current also has to return to the battery, so the earth wire must be at least a thick as the power cable. This applies to electric brakes also.
..............Regards.................Keith
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