LC100 T/D 2003 Gearbox Rattle
Submitted: Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 16:52
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Brooka27
Hey everyone, I have noticed the manual gearbox in my cruiser has a rattle when idling in neutral. I had just done a 50Klm trip then pulled up at
home to let the car cool down before shutting off, when I put the clutch in the noise goes away!
Is this the thrust washer/bearing etc?
Im sure my old 80 had the same noise but that had nearly 300k on the clock.
Can anyone else confirm?
Regards Jason
Reply By: honestjohn - Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 20:53
Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 20:53
sounds like it could be a throw bearing
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Reply By: honestjohn - Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 21:26
Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 21:26
oops should read throw out bearing
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Reply By: luch - Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 22:15
Saturday, Jan 06, 2007 at 22:15
Noisy input shaft bearing in the gearbox !
When you put your foot on the clutch you are stopping the input shaft form turning
Have it looked at so you can be given a time frame on how much life it has left in it
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 01:12
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 01:12
Jason,
I assume your vehicle is a HDJ100 (factory TD), and not an aftermarket turboed HZJ105 Cruiser. I have the same H150F gearbox as you, and
mine is quiet, having done 100,000k.
Check the obvious things - that the oil level is OK, and that the oil is the correct 75/90 gear oil. Sometimes thinner oils are slipped into these boxes to improve cold shifting.
But these noises has been common in Toyotas for as long as they've been around.
Two possibilties that I know of:
#1 If the noise is high pitched and goes away when you very lightly touch the clutch, it will probably be the clutch release bearing touching a groove thats wearing into the diaphragm spring forks - its just a nuisance.
#2 If the noise is a lower pitched rumble and present until the clutch is fully depressed, it will most likely be coming from the input shaft or idler gears which are all turning unless the clutch is depressed. Usually just some play or a bit of roughness developing. Most people do nothing about this, as the gearbox works fine. It would be unusual to have a serious problem in the heavier H150F box.
Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Brooka27 - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:45
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:45
Hello Phil, yeah it seems to be a lower pitched rumble. Yes it is a factory turbo diesel. The vehicle had been serviced before I bought it, so it is possible the wrong oil type is in it. Done by non toyota dealer...
Yeah I had the same noise in my 80 series box and that gave me no issues.
Thanks for you help mate.
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Reply By: Brooka27 - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:47
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:47
Thanks everyone I will get it checked out asap.
Regards Jason
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Reply By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 21:30
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 21:30
Hi Brooka
It will be the damper springs in the clutch plate. They have a spring with either nylon bushes either side or rubber bushes. They wear out due to the torsional forces of the 1HDT engine. The 1HZ do the same. You can try heavier oil in the box but it will make shifting worse. Sounds like a new clutch to me.
BTW how many km's has it done?
120scruiser
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Follow Up By: Brooka27 - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 22:31
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 22:31
It has 65000Klms, it seems to only happen once the gearbox is fairly warm, like it doesnt happen if I have only gone around
the block a few times. I done over 30klms constant running and thats when I heard the noise when I pulled up at
home for the turbo to cool.
regards Jason
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