Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 14:56
I had a similar dilemma, slush.
Initially I had no trailer, just clamp on jockey
wheels, which were fine for moving 100m or so, but not more. This was OK at a lot of
places, but sometimes there is no
camping close to the
water. If it is not easy to use the boat, you don't use it as much.
I considered making up some sort of tow hitch for the front of the boat to use with the jockey
wheels 9but did not plan on registering it), but though it would be too unstable.
Ended up getting an Almac fold up trailer. There are many available, but the Almac is Aluminium and is by far the lightest I have found. I carry it on the draw bar of my CT with the
wheels in a carry basket (with fuel
tank, seats, and other 'uglies') under the boat. All works great so far. The trailer has no
suspension to keep weight down so it is limited to about 80KPH, but I never get anywhere near that anyway. Longest tow using the trailer so far has been about 2 KM.
I don't know that you could get what you are talking about registered. In the least, you would need two road
wheels, an axle, some boat supports to keep the boat stable and a method of tying the boat down to it at the rear. At the front you would need a draw bar, hitch and a method of very securly connecting to the boat (this is probably the biggest challenge). You would also need a light board and cables. Funnily enough, that is exactly what my fold up trailer is, with probably about 6 KG of aluminium connecting it all together and a simple winch up front to make launcing and retreiving easier.
I managed to pick up my trailer (in new condition), second hand for half the new price. Don't think there is a lot of opportunity for that, but you never know.
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Follow Up By: slush - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 15:07
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 15:07
this is what im saying, i know of your trailer and they are great but when it comes down to it its still just joined by a centre bar and a few
places for the
wheels ect to slide in. So why cant the tinnie be used to bolt these things onto? with a few reinforced plates welded in place i cant see a problem.
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 15:21
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 15:21
I understand your point, but not sure that the registration people would.
Also, what you are after has largely already been invented - the fold up trailer.
I certainly wouldn't want to permanently weld or bolt anything to the outside of my tinne that might effect the
water flow ofer the hull.
No harm in designing something though and running it past the authorities for comment before you invest money in it. If you are successful you will have the start of a potentially great business.
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Follow Up By: Grungle - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 17:42
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 17:42
Hi Norm,
Would you have a photo of your trailer mounted on your drawbar? I am very interested to see how you've done yours.
Regards
David
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 18:07
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 18:07
Don't have one at the moment, but I'll see what I can do.
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 18:45
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 18:45
Grungle, I've uploaded 3 pics to my profile. Click on the profile link below, then click on the pics to enlarge. Difficult to photograp due to all the other stuff on the draw bar as
well. This is one of the pics:
!MPG:13!
The trailer is made from 50mmx50mm ali. So it all stacks vertically into 50 mm of space (not counting overhang from mud guards). I think you can get them with removable mud guards, but it's not a problem for me.
I just have 2 pairs of steel posts made from 50mm x 4mm (I think)spaced 50 mm apart. The trailer slots down in the 50mm gap. A pin goes between the posts to hold them tight against the trailer. I then strap it all down for extra security. The winch post goes behind and is strapped on. The light board slips in behind and is strapped on as
well (not on in the pic as I disn't take it on the last trip).
Everything is on the draw bar in this space except the
wheels and stub axles. I put them on the roof in a basket under the boat. I think it adds about 26 KG to the draw bar. I just leave one or two gerries empty (there are 4 on the bar) when I carry the trailer as I am close to the ball weight limit of the Hilux.
Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: Grungle - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 19:40
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 19:40
Cheers Norm,
Very nice and strong mounting setup there. I am very impressed with how you have laid things out. Given me a few ideas as
well.
Many thanks
David
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Follow Up By: mattie - Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 21:05
Sunday, Jan 07, 2007 at 21:05
hi
there used to be such a trailer called an AQUA TRAIL it had a tow ball hitch that bolted onto the bow/keel part of your tinny and a wheel that fitted onto each corner made from stainless steel it had a little coil spring for
suspension on each wheel and yes it was registerable but don't get your hopes up as they are not made any more and the person that has the patent i think went broke and they were manufactured over seas for a while and they stopped making them as
well or something along those lines as i have been trying to track one down for some time and this was the story i got from a marine
shop that used to sell them. So if u could find someone with one u made beable to copy it it would be
well worth it if u could track one down i saw one at
Ceduna SA about 5yrs ago but have not seen another since
MATTIE
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 17:21
Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 17:21
Hows it going Norm ,
I have also seen the one that MATTIE is talking about ,
I was camped at Sesia up
Cape York 2 yrs ago and the guy next to us had one ,he had just got it and was from Victoria , he said it was limited to < 80km/h .
Took up heaps less room than the folding type , he had his boat on top of his CT , just had brackets for mounting the
wheels on the rear of the boat out of the way of
water flow .
Even if you cant get this exact one you could find out from the RTA what the go is .
Glenn.
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