4.2 iTD v 4.2iTD

Computer controlled, Directed injection common rail, beats indirect mechanical injection any day that’s all it is.

I am sure there are differences in the engines as well but the above is what will make the big difference.

Extreme reliability in tuff conditions comes at a cost and that cost = meat pie engineering, Less Pro-Formance and rather Average fuel economy.

GU - old tech diesel with turbo and intercooler tacked on, after a few internal mods (a bit more to it than this but for brevity).
100 - modern diesel with later injection system etc, designed from ground up for T/IC.
78/79 - almost same motor as 100 minus intercooler (just for information).

The GU woud still flog my 1HZ, which is like the GU without the T/IC.

Andrew

why do you sound suprised? The TD42 came out in mid 80's... old school bulletproof donk... none better.

What diff ratios is the 'Cruiser running??

no common rail in the Toyota With a cr 4.2 it would probablysmoke the tyres while pulling away.
Bottom line is it is a more advanced motor with DOHC and better matchd turbo and intercooler

well, im not surprised, but i'd rather be in the desert with my dirty old school, keep the oil companies in business poo-trol! and i have a turbo territory if i wanna go fast, but i was curious, and now im not, sweet as boys, roll on the weekend, cause there is mud to be found, hills to conquer, rock to climb, shrubs to stract the paint, and beer to be drunk!!!
Cheers everyone, the Wayne-o

Wayno,

You have an attitude problem Wayno,,,,,,,,all that enjoying yourself - disgraceful.

The IHDT-FE engine in the 100 series Landcruisesr is a scorcher of a donk. By far, the best 4WD diesel motor in the world - I don't count those "GMC engines" such VW's etc - we've yet to see 'em do 500,000 kms in "Oz" conditions. The Tojo engine is quicker than my 6.5 litre V8 Chevissan. I really miss my 100 series in lots of ways, but the Chevissan is better as bush truck. A Nissan 4.2TD just will never catch a 1HDT-FE Tojo engine. Mine used to go like a sports car when I tramped it in 1st. It hit the rev limiter before I could grab the gear lever to put it in 2nd!! Even towing an 18 foot caravan it was quick!!

Stay out of that mud or yer Mum'll shout at yer,,,,,,,,,,

Bilbo

There would be a difference in the turbo set up as well I think?? Happy to be corrected here but AFAIK the GU turbo is "conservative" as well as having a restrictive exhaust?

I had a quick "run" against a mates GU a few months back and he commented at how quick my GQ with the aftermarket turbo is in comparison to his standard GU.

I know that the Toyota is a great engine, perhaps the turbo is another one of the factors involved?

Cheers

Brian

Maybe he was just a better hoon driver :-)

Quicker on the reflexes etc.

2000 technology vs 1990.....
The td6 is an old reliable donk with a turbo and intercooler added, just like they used to do with Safari gear, but now it has Nissan on it...
The toyota however, is an improvement on its 1995 model multivalve...by adding to it electro control, it uses more pressure in the injection system to give better atimisation for cleaner burn and more power, add to that a front mount intercooler (where it should be to minimise thermal loading and increase efficiency) overhead cam technology to reduce friction....in a phrase... better design... (do i get a job as a salesman mr Toyota) but the main reason.......direct injection just like the 3 litre patrol motor.....but in a 4.2.....the 3 litre is obviously more stressed than the 4.2 at making close to thesame power figures...
Anyone own an old Rodeo 2.8 t/d or a new Jackeroo...both good examples of powerful small direct injection motors....all the trucks on the road are direct aswell...just the jap 4wd motors that keep the indirect because (their excuse is) they suit the Jap smog regulations...
Lastly, the oil in a yota could well be retained for tripple the service change, they dont polute the oil anywhere asmuch as the indirect injected motors, which would start to become paiste after 5000 kms.
Andrew

I have spent about 6 grand all up on enhancing my Nissan and I would be most interested to put it up against the Cruiser, on paper mine has similar if not a bit more than the factory cruiser but it has cost me 10 grand less than those going out and buying the cruiser from new. The big difference would be top end speed being more in the cruiser over mine but who gets away with driving at more than 160 these days anyway.

See you out there one day.
Trevor.

Wayne its just power - a 3lt Nissan will pull away from you to.

The 4.2 Nissan diesel is an 18-19 sec car (0-100kmh)

The Tojo 4.2 is 15sec (Base model 20 sec)

My Mates 4.2 Nissan with exhaust and tune up is 15 sec

The 3 lt Nissan is 16 sec +- 1/2 depending on model.

The 4800 Nissan is 10-11 secs

Robin Miller

Come November this argument will be moot with the introduction of the tojo twin turbo V8 diesel.........drool drool.........I might be able to afford one in 2011?

The Toyota 100 series do not use Common Rail technology yet, the new Hilux and Prado do but these are different engines. The Toyota engine has more low down torque than the Nissan and this is probably why.