Vic Fires

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 16, 2007 at 20:22
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Has anyone noted the similarity of the bushfire burn to the national parks in Vic?

Almost a mirror image of the maps.

DSE should open the fire trails to ensure the database of trails is up to date for their staff, this will enable the fires can be fought on the mild days.

The 4wd clubs could monitor and maintain the fire trails (within reason) to ensure safe passage for the CFA & DSE.

Locking it up doesn't maintain the biodiversity, as when the fires go through everything is blitzed making it a free for all for the re-growth. (Weeds included)

Hope Vic gets a good rain and soon.

Good Luck and Good Night

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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 16, 2007 at 22:19

Tuesday, Jan 16, 2007 at 22:19
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Reply By: atoyot - Tuesday, Jan 16, 2007 at 22:54

Tuesday, Jan 16, 2007 at 22:54
The majority of clubs would possibly do a good job of maintaining trails, but I'm afraid that some club's ideas of maintaining tracks would be to make them impassable to everything bar competition type vehicles. I would hope that something like this would be very much in the minority, but I know the club that I used to be in are only interested in cutting tracks that are challenging to them, and impassable to most mildly modified 4wd's. CAT1 tankers wouldn't have a hope of transversing the trails that they would like to see everywhere.

Don't get me wrong; I agree with you about opening trails etc, I just don't know how effective if would be overall. It's not hard to get bad press these days.

If I sound a bit defeatist, I apologise, but I believe that it is a problem that the 4WD movement will have to tackle at some point,

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Jan 16, 2007 at 23:07

Tuesday, Jan 16, 2007 at 23:07
If 4x4s with massive tyres keep wrecking the tracks ... expect more gates, they are fire tracks & fire appliances have to have full access, not get stuck because some idiot with boggers had to keep driving back & forth through a muddy section.

The stock reply that it's the standard vehicles doing it, because they are less capable is absolute cr@p, it would be impossible for them to dig trenches that deep because they would bottom out.
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Follow Up By: Robnicko - Wednesday, Jan 17, 2007 at 08:48

Wednesday, Jan 17, 2007 at 08:48
I totally agree with Shaker on this one. Its the idiots that spoil it for everyone in every form of recreation
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Follow Up By: myfourby - Wednesday, Jan 17, 2007 at 10:51

Wednesday, Jan 17, 2007 at 10:51
Hmmm - sounding a little familiar to post #30956
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Follow Up By: atoyot - Wednesday, Jan 17, 2007 at 11:11

Wednesday, Jan 17, 2007 at 11:11
Shaker and Robnicko,

This issue is being ignored and poo-pooed by a proportion of the 4wd community, and locked gates will be the end result. I believe that there is a place for these types of vehicles, but National Parks, State Forrests etc and not the ideal places - private land with purpose built tracks (like where they hold comps) are where they best belong. I agree that large aggressive tyres will cause more problems than standard tyre shod vehicles would, generally speaking. On some of these tracks, standard vehicles wouldn't get past the first knarly section, so they can't be the ones chewing the rest of it up!

Ron Moon wrote an article in 4x4 Aust a few years ago calling for 33's to be the largest tire size permitted on public land tracks etc, and I think that, while it is not palatable for those with comp vehicles, it is the only sustainable way forward. Whether it's enforceable is another matter, but I believe that it is up to the 4wd peak bodies and the clubs to realise that this is a problem that is getting bigger, and that there are more and more vehicles with tyres much larger than 33's that are more part of the problem than the solution,

Andrew
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Follow Up By: atoyot - Wednesday, Jan 17, 2007 at 11:42

Wednesday, Jan 17, 2007 at 11:42
I just read post #30956; I don't want to open that can of worms, so I'll say no more. Obviously, I'm wrong.

Andrew
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