LED Camp Lights
Submitted: Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 12:27
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Member - Toytruck (SA)
I have been searching for a 12V DC LED
Camp Light without much success...
What I am trying to find is a Lantern Style Light that sits on its own for placing on a
camp table or the like. I have found many strip lights and lightbars but cannot find a light that stands on its own rather that having to hang it from somewhere....
There are lantern styles that run on batteries, I am sick of buying batteries. There are styles that are rechargable lights but I already carry about 300 chargers and do not want another one. There are 240 volt but would rather not have to use the inverter. I am seeking plain 12VDC.
Any ideas or links appreciated.
Toytruck
Reply By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 12:53
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 12:53
I think ours is a Coleman...
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 13:20
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 13:20
Know your problem.
I am looking for something similar too.
Supercheat (oops cheaP) and
BCF have LED light sticks at the moment, but they hang off a hook.
Thinking maybe bending up a light wire frame to hold it in a standing position, then i have the best of both worlds, a stand and a hanging light.
Be interested to see the other replies.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 13:29
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 13:29
Oldplodder,
I'm with you. I have spent most of today researching and cannot for the life of me find what I am after. I cannot beleive that no one builds a 12VDC LED Lantern.
I am thinking building/modifying one to suit what I am after.
Toytruck
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 13:42
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 13:42
I'd guess problem here is that LEDs are so directional, that its pretty hard to make a table lantern out of them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 13:49
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 13:49
Phil G,
not sure if I agree, I have seen a mirriad of LED arrangements out there that would do the trick. I think one rack had 36. A ring of these in a lantern would light a
camp table no worries.
Toytruck
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 15:08
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 15:08
Toytruck,
I hope you find one. I like LEDs because they are cool and don't attract insects, but haven't yet come across any LED light that will provide enough light around
camp. I don't think power consumption is an issue here.
With 3 kids, I was wondering whether you've tried the common option of a long tent pole with horizontal 13W fluoro on top - lights up a big area. tent pole just drops into a holder thats hammered into the ground.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 15:39
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 15:39
Phil G,
I have found a solution. It comprises of a 360 Degree Masthead Light for a Yacht coupled to a fitting which I will then screw onto a pole probably a nice stainless one with a base. This will stand anywhere in the
camp and provide a crap load of light.
If you are interested I will send part Nos etc.
Toytruck
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:21
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:21
Was about to suggest the masthead light (at 3 w I think). Are you buying through 'ledshoponline' ?
Be interested in all-up cost and performance. Happy tinkering, Jeff.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:32
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:32
JeffH,
yep Keith at the LED
Shop has been a great help. In my htread below, Keith has told me to buy a simple 240v lamp, ensuring that the bayonet is the same as the 12V Led buld, fit the 12v buld, chop off the 240v plug and run it off the car........easy peasy. I will certainly post some pics etc when this project is finished...should be a ripper.
Toytruck
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:49
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:49
Toytruck,
Thanks for the offer, but since getting the traytop and canopy, we use the 13 watt flushmount fluoro on the canopy doors - just flick the switch. I have a couple of small LED lamps as
well, if insects are a problem. We used to use a fluoro on an aluminium tentpole, and it works great - can get the light nice and high. Hope your new setup does the job nicely - its a lot of fun "inventing" stuff
Cheers
phil
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Reply By: Member - Franga (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:09
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:09
I bought one from
BCF, it has a handle that swivels around and a little wire section that folds out to make up a stand, it can be hung from a hook as
well, it can be adjusted to give a beam like a torch or flood like a lantern.
We used ours at chrissy time for a week and the same batteries are still going, fom memory 3 AA's.
I'll look for the name of it tonight and post it
Cheers with Beers
Franga
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:21
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:21
Franga,
thanks all the same but I am really after something that does not require batteries. I am being a little stubborn on this I know but with three kids and releatives that buy nothing other than battery powered toys I am sick and tired of giving my hard earned cash to Battery companies. I figure if I am carrying two big 12V batteries in the front of the 4by and sometimes a third in the trailer why not use em.
Toytruck
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Reply By: Robin - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:10
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:10
Hi Toy truck
Leds can be a tricky subject , but in general what you want with decent performance isn't yet readily available.
Its also very easy to get lost in the jargon.
Build my own usually , but this is a bit unfair as I have acess to development products.
Very soon sonar will be releasing what you need , and I am already using same.
In the meantime you can buy 1 watt wide angle Leds from Jaycar etc which have aceptable performance.
I use a single 120 wide angle led which outputs 35 lumens of light in a flat battery pack containing 3 AA batteries, being flat it slips into shirt pocket much better than current round torches.
I also use two only to light up the whole rear of my patrol and they work better with higher efficentcy than light bulbs.
New experimental Leds have now crossed the barrier and are more efficent than Fluro tubes and this will soon result in many of the
camp lights being phased out.
Don't get sidetracked by the ones that currently use " 30" or whatever number of leds on the idea that they are better/brighter.
If I had to do what you wish today I would get lantern like coleman or cheap copy which can hold 4.5v of batteries and re-build it with high end leds.
Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:25
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:25
Robin,
thanks for the info much appreciated. I think I have a solution and a very simple one. A 360 degree 12VDC bulb that is designed for a yacht that I can place on my own verticle pole adn will stand on its own. I can put this on a
camp table or anywhere else in the
camp without having to worry about having a rope or something to hang it off.
Toytruck
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Follow Up By: Robin - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:35
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:35
Glad you got a solution Toy.
Meant to say before that Jaycar do have led table lanterns , but I tend to get put off by some of these products when I know what can really be achieved.
Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 15:54
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 15:54
If they are the same marine LED bulbs used in anchor lights, then they are expensive (~$40) and are too
bright when looking at them without a diffuser.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:21
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:21
Andrew,
yep thats the sucker. I am not concerned with price as I think the use of the light will be worth it, as for the brightness, yes I expect it will be pretty
bright but if installed in the lamp as I have described below it should be diffused sufficiently.....I guess I will soon find out if I am wrong:-) if you see a light on the horizon towards
Adelaide from QLD one night you will know I was wrong:-)
Toytruck
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 18:56
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 18:56
I meant to add before that we bought some to trial them (for anchor light bulbs and camping) and find that they are good when slightly diffused :-)
I wasn't trying to scare you off with the price, just that they are more than a normal bayonet bulb.
Though they should work better with daylight savings :-)
Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Mary W (VIC) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:44
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 14:44
I recently picked up a solar powered garden light.Just leave the panel somewhere in the vehicle to charge up and light comes on when it gets dark.Can be switched of when not needed .Put a clamp on it so can attach to table ,tent, vehicle . No batteries no worries
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Reply By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 15:44
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 15:44
All,
problem solvered Boss,
I have ordered a 360 degree LED Masthead Light for a yacht with a base which I will then fit to a vertical pole...any height I like, might even make it adjustable. This will then be wired to run off 12VDC....bob's your Uncle or Aunty depending.
The buld is rated at 3 watts draw and is advertised as emitting intense light...might be to
bright.
Will post some pics when complete.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:18
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:18
it gets even better,
I can purchase a simple 240 volt lamp with a bayonet fitting that will suit the masthead buld, available from Target and most other stores fairly cheap, plug in the 12VDC LED chop off the 240V plug and use it on the 12V System.
Simple.
Toytruck
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Reply By: RobAck - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:22
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:22
Check out the 12Volt
shop for starters and possibly Jaycar. I would also suggest Snowy's as well. If you are looking for a heavy duty version I purchased some for our work teams from Rema Tip Top, not cheap but bullet proof and lasted for around three hours. But these were 240V but he mentioned the possibility of a 12v version so still worth picking up the phone
RobA
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Follow Up By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:29
Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 at 16:29
RobAck,
being 240v does not matter, so long as the bayonet fitting in teh lamp base is the same as the 12V Bulb. The LED
Shop have indicated that they are a standard fitting and will be the same. You can then cut off the 240 plug, fit the 12Vdc bulb and run it off the car battery.
Cheers
Toytruck
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