Cheap crap Taiwan socket sets,& spanners!

Submitted: Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 18:34
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How did that go,?? " You can't hand a man a grander spanner"

Got to have been something to do with sidchrome .

Had to undo a 50mm nut which held a piston on a hydraulic ram, using a 3/4 drive taiwan socket and power bar with 2mtr length of water pipe as extra leverage, the mate & I near broke our own nuts when this socket split in half !!..
I'm well aware black impact sockets are more suitable for this type of work, but didn't have one that size. The thing was we ended up borrowing one from a truckie up the road, a sidchrome brand not black and with his 100kgs as well swinging on this bar we cracked it. Its very tempting to buy this imported cheap stuff at times, but unless your doing very lightwork its just not worth it.
Lesson learn't, NO MORE CHEAP CRAP TOOLS.

Cheers Axle.

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Reply By: Footloose - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 18:52

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 18:52
"Ya kanna handa man a better spanna "...
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 19:39

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 19:39
Thanks footloose, Got that stuffed up!! . ,
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 20:46

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 20:46
Axle, I know that one cause I'm so old :))
Might also have to do with only being able to afford junk until I needed to use it, result was much frustration and skinned knuckles not to mention blood. So I went and bought some quality stuff, one by one as I could afford it.
The crap went long ago. The good stuff is still being used after 30 years.
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:10

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:10
"Ya kanna handa man a granda spanna" Was the saying.
I used to have the full kit but over the last 20 years they have slowly been borrowed and not returned... :(
Although I prefer Stahwille (spelling) Paid $250 for 4 spanners 20 yrs ago which was 2 weeks apprentice wages back then, and they are still going strong in my tool box
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Follow Up By: Stu050 - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 00:29

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 00:29
I have been using a minimax toolset for the past 22 years.

During this time, I have not managed to break a spanner or socket (not for the want of trying). I have had a 6 foot "breaker bar" on one of the 1/2 inch drive sockets while splitting a John Deere tractor to rebuild the engine.

What I have observed with some of the other sets, (lately sidchrome is included as well), is that the stamping is not quite central in the sockets and ring spanners.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 09:03

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 09:03
"Ya kanna handa man a grander spanner" hehehehehe

I bought cheap and when I break/strip one I replace with Sidchrome.

So far, in 30 odd years I have bought 1 10mm socket, and them spanners have done a power of work
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 09:36

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 09:36
Bonz, I think the same person *borrowed* my 10mil spanner also :)
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Follow Up By: Aston - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 13:38

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 13:38
"Sidchrome"
has been made in India for the past 10years as far as I am aware.

cheers aston
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 19:07

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 19:07
Obviously the Chinese could make better ones ... why they insist on making what they know to be crap and why the SuperCheats keep importing it, I don't know.

For all the open market rhetoric, you'd think we had some choice between cheap imported rubbish and Exorbitant imported quality.
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Follow Up By: DIO - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 10:05

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 10:05
I think it might be fair to say that although the Chinese could make better ones they manufacture according to what the customer wants. Hey mister, do you want a $9.99 set of sockets or a $59.99 set. We can do either for you. Believe me, the two sets are NOT of the same quality. Old adage - YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR and that's been brought about by greedy retailers seeking higher profits.
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Reply By: Exploder - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 19:53

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 19:53
Yeah the Chinees stuff is utter rubbish, try using quality tools then go back and use the Chinese stuff you can’t work with it, it makes the Job harder.

I buy Sidchrome and Kinchrome tools, would buy Snap on except it is stupidly overpriced for what it is.
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Follow Up By: obee - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 18:31

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 18:31
saw a snap on jack today at a garage sale. Made for snapon in China!
Bought a set of 3/8 sockets, brit tools, been looking for a set that didnt include AF for yonks.

You have to get second hand stuff now for quality. Wierd aint it.

Owen
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Reply By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 20:05

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 20:05
When I was a younger fella , I got a tool kit of dubious nature for Xmas one year.

The first time I used it in anger , I tried to change the brake pads on my mates Pathy , result = one split socket.

As a result , all the tools I use at work are Snap On , with good reason.

Just refreshed all my tools , got heaps from eBay in the states . all you have to do is check out the part numbers of the thing getting sold ,on the Snap On online catalogue , and check out the savings. The thing to look out for is the postage ,sometimes can be more than the item , have to be patient.

Best deal so far , small side cutters , $ 89 + 10 for delivery from Snap On online in Oz. Won for $30 delivered from the States.

The best bit is you dont need a reciept to take it back , as long as it is Snap On they will help you out !

Glenn.
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 20:57

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 20:57
Yeah I considered Snap on for all of 30 seconds

Snap On, Sockets set ½ drive
General Service, Metric, 12-Point (45 Piece.) A$2,782.05 !!!, and that about did it, No Socket set is that Good, i have used Snap On tools but thay are not worth the price IMO

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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:47

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:47
Just bought 1/4" - 1 " open end / ring spanner set was described as second hand , When I got it was like new . Cost $220 shipped from the States , $ 540 for the same new here.

At home use Repco tools and am pleased with the results .

Like I said , just went through my work tools cause I figured I will be on the tools for another 20yrs, The only stuff that didnt need sorting out was the Snap On gear I had bought 15 yrs ago.

At work I am a professional engineer and use the appropriate tools .

Glenn.
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 01:50

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 01:50
Hay Glenn, do you find with your Repco spanners, the open-end side on the Combination spanners, the Chrome gets damaged and begins to peal after moderate use?

I have a set of Repco A/F Combination spanners at work and it has happened to just about all of them, I got them on a gift Voucher so not really to bothered about it, But considering they are actually not a "cheep" spanner around $170 for a ¼ to 7/8” set you would expect a bit more durability.

The Sidchrome & Kinchrome spanners I have don’t suffer from this.

It looks like you and I are in similar fields of work; I am in Mechanical Fitting, Just a poor 3rd year at the moment am trying to get 6 months knocked of my prison sentence too LOL, also picking up some heavy-duty diesel units at nights when I can, but it isn’t easy to get Tafe to run the units i whant

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Kiwi Kia - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 06:28

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 06:28
Hi Glen D,

Do you know who owns Repco and where they source their tools from ?

I think you will find they are asian :-))
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Follow Up By: brad1972 - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 15:28

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 15:28
Repco brand look a lot like rebadged ultima spanners
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 17:07

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 17:07
Havent had any probs with the spanners , have 1/2 drive sockets too .

Only use them to work on the car but , and its not like they are used all day every day.

Good luck with the TAFE Expoloder, more tha a little while since I was there.

I am an Aircraft engineer , everyone has a pretty high standard with their tools. One apprentice we had bought some of those ' Metrinch ' sockets ( but they are metric and imperial , how can that be bad )
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Reply By: burnsy - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 21:05

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 21:05
I have used these cheap sockets for years with a 1" torque multiplyer & I have yet to have a breakage. ALthough I cannot say the same about the Breaker bar ( it bends) Maybe I have been lucky but it is attractive that you can buy a whole set of sockets for the same price as 1 socket in some brand names.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 21:21

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 21:21
Its not only the toughness that bothers me, the tolerance in the size can be absolutley shocking!! .
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Reply By: Ozboc - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 21:44

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 21:44
Sidchrome isnt that good anymore either --- -- had a ratchet fail on me in the first week -- split a few sockets -- ended up going back to my elcheepo brand to finish the job.

moral --- brand name isnt always the be all to end all

Boc
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Follow Up By: Twintrail(W.A.) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:27

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 00:27
Had a garage sale today with a sidcrome socket set ie af/ring opened and sockets all 40 plus years hardly used .no interest.
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Reply By: Nick R - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 21:47

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 21:47
I know someone who has had the same problem. I used his tools one day to crack some slightly smaller bolts, 28mm I think with 6 feet of pipe and was ok, just lucky maybe........
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Reply By: ozdragon - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:06

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:06
Axle

You did get it right.

The saying is "Ya canna handa a man a granda spanner.....than a sidcrome"

Peter
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Reply By: Flash - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:42

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:42
Sadly, I don't believe Sidchrome is Aussie made any more.
Used to be very good tools- I have many of their stuff from late 60's/early 70's and not a single failure despite much "abuse" over the years.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:51

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:51
Theirs nothing left mate!!. Put up,.. Pay the price,......Or shut up! Thats it.

Cheers.
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 23:21

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 23:21
OK Guys, I gotta ask,

I bought a set of sockets last year from SuperCheap Auto. They were branded as "Superworks Gold" and were about $300 for a pretty comprehensive set.

Used them a few times and they seem very solid. Should certainly do anything that I (as a person of VERY basic mechanical skills) would want to attempt.

Can anyone vouch for the quality of these tools that are promoted by SuperCheap as their premium range? They have a lifetime warranty. The sales man said if any of them do happen to break then bring it back for instant replacement (no receipt required).

Are they as good as the Kinchromes and the like? Are they a rebranded product?

Many thanks
Muddy
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 23:49

Saturday, Jan 20, 2007 at 23:49
As long as they are the premium ones you should be ok ! LOL

The way I rate lifetime warranty is if it breaks its life is over ! LOL

Have had a 10 yr old Snap On rachet screwdriver drop about 80ft and dettonate , the Snap On guy to his credit rebuilt it, they are over $100 now . Thats what I call Lifetime warrany.

Glenn.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 00:05

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 00:05
Glen, Your Lifetime rating is spot on :))))))

Always had a hundred years stuck in my brain when that was mentioned! LOL.

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 01:25

Sunday, Jan 21, 2007 at 01:25
Yeah the Super works Premium stuff would more than adequate for the home mechanic type jobs.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 17:48

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 17:48
>Yeah the Super works Premium stuff would more than
>adequate for the home mechanic type jobs.

And that hits the nail very squarely on the head (good pun I thought :)

As a professional electronics engineer the amount I have spent on tools over the years is huge! A$200 each for small side cutters, needle pliers etc but I did that because it was my living and I wanted the _best_ to make my job easier and to last for extended professional use - wait 'till you see the price of electronic test equipment - makes a few A$k look cheap!! :)

BUT... my socket set is used a dozen times a year and, usually for hobby, not professional applications; so a $200 no brand set has performed the job admirably for the past 10 years or so and I see no reason why it won't continue to do so for the next 20 - if I were a mechanic I would probably spend A$1k or whatever on a socket set.

Horses for courses.

Mike harding
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