Mitsubishi Wins 2007 Dakar

Submitted: Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:48
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Good morning all,
For those that are following the 2007 Dakar, Mitsubishi was won 1st and 2nd in this years Dakar. Stephane Paterhansel won the race with just a seven and a half minute lead over fellow team member Luc Alphand.

The down side is that again 2 motorcyclists died during during the Rally, bringing a total of 49 Riders and Drivers having died in the races history.

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Reply By: Member -Signman - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:15

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:15
Yup..& believe the Mitsubishi adverts...The Dakar Pajeros are almost identical to those on the showroom floor !!!
BTW..did you see the size of the snatch strap being used by the truck to snatch out another truck in the dunes. Must have been about 30cm wide...
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Reply By: Member - Toytruck (SA) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:28

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:28
They obviously replace a lot of the factory items with Toyota bits Ha ha :-)

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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:47

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:47
Did toyota or nissan win the production car N class?
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Follow Up By: kev.h - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 18:10

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 18:10
Its called Badge re-engineering ie. you keep the badge and re-engineer the car
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:49

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:49
I was hoping VW won. They were going well until stage 5.
Maybe next year.
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Reply By: howie - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:55

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:55
i think you will find that only about 20-odd killed were riders and drivers, the rest have been spectators or unsuspecting locals.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:12

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:12
now wait for someone to say Pajero LMAO!!!!!

People die every year. but they all know what they are getting into. its the hardest event in the world on people and machines.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 18:55

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 18:55
I'm sure the 'unsuspecting locals' would disagree with you somewhat.
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Reply By: donks1 - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 14:41

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 14:41
Mitsu will have to update their current ads

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Reply By: Member - Tim - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 19:09

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 19:09
Congratulations again to the mighty EVO Pajero, no other company has come close.

I honestly can't understand the way people carry on about how different they are from the standard car. Have you seen a Ferrari, Mercedes or Toyota on the road that looks like or has all the same components as an F1 car? Have you seen a Holden or Ford that has any of the parts from a V8 Supercar? Actually I think the tail lights might be the same but not much more. Do the vehicles in the local 4wd winching competitions bear much resemblance to the car on the showroom floor?

A lot of the design of the latest independent suspension in the Pajeros was developed in the Dakar race and a lot of the improvements in the V6 engine have come from there and rallying. Give some credit to a company that has again won one of the hardest races in the world against some damned good opposition.

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Follow Up By: Member - jeff M (SA) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 22:58

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 22:58
Well said mate, so many knocker's ,
we all know you can't go out and buy one! Derrrrrrrr

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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 19:14

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 19:14
Other than the engine block, the diff housings & the badge on the front I doubt Mitsubishi used much that came off their assembly lines, being pretty much a fully blown race car under that carbon fibre skin. Unlike the real winners of the event driving in the production class, a Toyota 100 series diesel was #1 I believe. After reading responses on this forum who would have thought a 4x4 with independent suspension would even finish the event let alone come 1st ;-))
Ohh what a feeling.............
Cheers Craig..........
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 02:21

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 02:21
We all know the Paj that won Dakar isn't your normal production vehicle, but have any of you taken the time to have a look at the Pajero's that won 10 years ago, most of what was in these vehicles filtered their way into the current Pajeros, and thats exactly whet these vehicles are for, the same as F1 cars to help develope better, stronger production vehicles. As for production Yota 100, seems funny when i mentioned a few months back that Pajero have won the Fink for the umteenth time nearly every Tojo owner out there jumped up and down saying non of these vehicle are even a close resemblance of a stock vehicle, and they would have all done it again if a Paj had won the Dakar "production class" Lets see if a Yota or a Neeesan can beat Pickerings Pajero this year in the Finke Desert Race, be about time these far superior vehicles did..... LOL
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 18:30

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 18:30
Ironically Blaze I was the one & only Toyota man that stuck up for you on that thread about Pajero's winning the Finke production class. Everyone else was confused with the Evolution cars :-)) I have even been raising the flag for Mitsubishi the last few weeks singing the praises of the new Triton being the best ute so don't shoot your allies, they're as rare as hens teeth ;-) I still can't believe the silence from the Nissan camp though.........."100 series have gone soft, independant suspension is no good".........where have they all gone now? :-))
Cheers Craig........
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:07

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:07
Hi Craig,

You will notice I did put "nearly every Tojo owner out there" so I'm all for Allies... LOL As for Neesan owners going quiet, I believe last time I heard of their race wins was Bathurst and the Skylines. hehehehe I agree with some of the other posts, anyone who finishes Dakar needs a medal, when you consider the whole of the Finke event is only equal to one special stage, its hard to comprehend.
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Reply By: Member - Tim - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 19:53

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 19:53
Hi Crackles, that is one hell of an effort by Toyota to win the production class but don't use it to take something away from the outright winners of the event. All racing has a set of rules to which a car is developed and which all the competitors run under, as long as the car fits within the rules for it's class it is a great effort to win. I know that BMW had some production X5 diesels in the last one so I assume that Toyota had to beat them and probably a few others so good on them. Mitsubishi had to beat a number of others developed to the same rules so good on them too.

By the way I am sure that Geoff Pickering who won many Australian Offroad championships in the production class in a Pajero would argue that the standard Pajero is pretty good too. Mitsubishi don't put any effort into running standard diesels in the Dakar as they prefer to win outright, who knows what would happen if they did?

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Follow Up By: Member - Jason S (SA) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 20:38

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 20:38
Yeah happy that the Pajero's got up again.

The real race for me as a customer though is the production 4x4 race. Toyota all the way and some there.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:47

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 21:47
I certainly wont take anything away from the big boys in their prototype cars & trucks, they certainly were spectacular & put on a great show but to get some sense of what a production car can do & how reliable it is under extreme conditions with modifications anyone can do, I always find it interesting to see how the lesser class's fared.
Putting a company badge on a prototype Dakar car whether it be a Hummer, a Pajero or a BMW M3 would be like putting a Honda Civic badge on an F1 race car...............false advertising. At least VW didn't pretend their's was a Golf or a Beetle :-)
Cheers Craig..........
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Follow Up By: Middle Jeff - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 22:13

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 22:13
Hi I a not 100% sure but I think the pajero normally take out the production class as well, the cruiser win was unusual because it is normally one by petrol motors.

Have fun
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Follow Up By: Member - Tim - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 22:45

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 22:45
I haven't followed this year at all because I have been away where there was no television but I have just done a bit of looking on the web. The VWs are called a Race Touareg according to the entry list so that seems to be the same concept as a Pajero EVO to me :). Since they are outright contenders they would be as highly modified as all the others.

Just saw your other follow up in the e-mail while I was searching and you may be right that they have won the production class before but they always seem to advertise the outright win. I am pretty sure that any Mitsubishi teams in the production class would be privateers. The entry list actually shows 5 diesel Pajeros and a stack of other ones that probably are petrol but it is impossible to tell if they are factory supported. There are also quite a few Toyotas but it is even harder as the list I found doesn't even show if they are diesel let alone what class they run in or if they have factory support. Frankly anyone without factory support who manages to finish a race like that has won as far as I am concerned. To get the first five places if they were privateers is great. Factory supported against privateer wouldn't impress me as much since they can break lots of things and get them fixed by the team where a privateer struggles.

It's like the old days of Bathurst where the cars really were production compared to what they are now where I can't even tell the makes from the front except for the sticker across the top of the windscreen. Some of the rules in this years Dakar enforced some stages without outside servicing allowed in order to even things up but a true test of reliability would have to not allow much in the way of servicing.

All in all good fun though :).

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