Pajero 4wd Activation,

Submitted: Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 14:11
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Hello team,
Got a curiosity question.
Went to Hawkes Nest Beach yesterday.
I was stopped at the Lemontree entry letting my tyres down and there where three young blokes in a late model Pajero doing the same thing just in front of me.

They where finished first and headed off along the access track. The Pajero went about 15 metres and dropped down to the rear axle, bogged.

I finished letting my tyres down and they where stll mucking around digging the hole they where in deeper.

I wandered over and asked them what was happening. No drive to the front axle was the answer. (Figured I may as well have a chat as the track was totally blocked)

I asked the usual questions, free wheeling hubs, stubby lever etc. I know their tyre pressures had been seen to as I watched them do that part.

Anyway's, I snigged them back to the carpark and they packed and left mumbling and muttering in obscene languages.

About an hour or two later they drove along the beach past me without any troubles. I never got to ask them what the trouble really was. It couldn't have been much more than the nut on the steering wheel by the time it took to fix!!

According to the young bloke the Pajero is part time 4wd without free wheeling hubs. This just plain didn't sound right to me, but I know nothing about Pajero's.
It had factory alloy wheels all round and the centre of the front rims looked solid to me!

Don't ask me what model the Pajero was, they're like cans of coke to me, they all look the same.

My question is how exactly does the 4wd system on a lateish model Pajero work?
I've absolutely no experience with them, mine is with part time systems on vehicles of the Land persuasion, be it Rover or Cruiser.

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Geoff.
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Reply By: Gmouse - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 14:18

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 14:18
Mine just had a button on the side of the transfer lever

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Reply By: Scubaroo - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 14:28

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 14:28
Probably an NM or NP - they have "super select II" system. Normal mode is rear 2WD, however you can engage all wheel drive, (basically 4WD with unlocked centre diff), high range 4WD (locked centre diff) and low range 4WD (locked centre diff) just by moving the transfer shifter in the vehicle. No manual hubs.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 15:03

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 15:03
Thanks,
So they could have just imagined being in 4wd drive or something in the bowels decided not to engage in say "all wheel drive" mode.
Maybe they where doing it different when I saw them later. Perhaps something like "high range 4wd"

Guess I'll never really know what happened!

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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 18:54

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 18:54
As Geoff said, you normally select witht he transfer lever.
It changes the transfer case and engages the drive shaft in the front diff.
The lights on the dash flash until the front drive shaft is engaged.
Sometimes it can a car length or 3 to engage in ther front diff, especially if it has not been used for a while.
So maybe they selescted 4wd high, but it had not fully engaged?
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Follow Up By: wrexed03 - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 20:56

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 20:56
Sorry OP of the topic.. Hey Oldplodder shoot me an email if you can have a question for you. wrexex03@hotmail.com.

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Follow Up By: Member - jeff M (SA) - Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 22:32

Monday, Jan 22, 2007 at 22:32
Maybe they got bogged because they forgot to engage 4wd and then needed to dig a bit after they realised what they had done ?

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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 08:03

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 08:03
Hi Jeff,
I've got no idea what they did. I'd put money on the nut attached to the steering wheel being the main source of the problem.

I was curious how Mitsubishi did the 4wd thing on the Pajero's as I've never had anything to do with them.

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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 08:43

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 08:43
Geoff,

Yep, the driver would be the main problem. Might have been a bit green.

A bit more detail if it helps.

The transfer lever, sorry Mitsu call it the "super select lever" selects 2H, 4H (centre unlocked but centre viscous coupling engaged, good for wet bitumen and semi hard surfaces, and works well in sand unless very soft) 4HL (usual 4 high centre locked) and of course 4L. 2H to 4H can be done while driving at speeds up to 100km/hr.

Selecting 4wd in the transfer case (older super select is mechanical in the transfer case, new ones are electronic over mechanical), activates a couple of solenoids that then activate a vacumn system to engage 4wd in the front diff. What happens is that in 2wd one axle is disengaged in the front diff, and selecting 4wd engages it. 4wd lights flash on the dash to show 4wd is selected, since the transfer case has been changed to 4wd, but front axle not engaged, when the lights stay on, axle is engaged. Same coming back to 2wd, lights will flash to confirm the selection, then go off when in full 2wd.
It is a known hassle with Mitsu that the vacumn system becomes a bit dodgy if not used on a regular basis, i.e. at least every 6 months or so.
Sometimes it can take a car length or a change in speed, or a change in direction for the front axle to engage.

A friend bought a pajero that had not been used in 4wd very much and had some work to do getting the system to work again. Now he selects 4wd on a regular basis and all works OK. Maybe they had a similar problem if they had bought it 2nd hand?
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 09:03

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 09:03
To wrexex03

Tried sending you an email at wrexex03@hotmail.com. .

Hotmail said acount not available.

You can get me at john.c2800(at)gmail.com
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 10:07

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2007 at 10:07
"Might have been a bit green" You didn't know how accurate that statement was young Plodder when you typed it!!

The young chap in question was a green "P" Plater. One of those unique NSW creatures with greater than 1 year driving experience but less than 3 years and in some cases, absolutely nothing to learn.

Thanks for the information, satisfied my curiosity. If I ever come across another green horn in a Pajero with the same problem I'll have a vague idea of how it's supposed to work.

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