OziExplorer - Showing Routes/ Tracks purchased from Exploroz ?

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:11
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I purchased a Hay River Map / Track from the Exploroz Shop . In what OziExplorer file should I place this in . I put it in the Data File , but I am having no luck bring it up on a map .

When I go "Load Track from File " it does not show it as being in the Data File .

Oops ,

Willie .
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Reply By: John R (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:19

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:19
What type of file is it Willie? Is it something like; Hay_River_Trek.plt

If not, what is the extension (the bit after the fullstop)?

The important bit is the extension, in this case .plt
When ozi tries to load track from file, it will only look for files with this extension (as far as I'm aware anyway!).

It won't really matter which folder you put the file in, so long as you look in that folder when it comes time to open it. So saving all your track files, waypoints etc in the 'data' folder makes sense.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:22

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:22
Hi John ,
It is a *.trk file .
Willie .
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Follow Up By: John R (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:32

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:32
Try Load -> Import -> From Compe-Gps Track Files

I don't know if it will work as I've not got any .trk files to try. However it's the only import I've found which looks for .trk files.
If that fails, I'd go back and download the plot. Though by the time you to that, someone more knowledgable might have turned up and offered a solution!

(No idea what your computer knowledge is, so sorry if I am taking a rather basic approach. Mind you, my computer approach is always rather basic)
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Reply By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:21

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:21
Ground hog day eh Willie!

In PostID: 41706 you mentioned you had a C: and a D: drive. Are you sure you put them in the same folder you are now telling OziEx to go look in?

Tim

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Reply By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:22

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:22
Willie

What you describe doing is correct.
You should have a file with extension .plt
Are you certain you down loaded "track file" and not waypoints?
Check under "load waypoints from file" and see if you have any thing there.
Check under the data directory and with MS explore and see what is in the directory and what file extension you have.

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Reply By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:37

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:37
Willie,

As John R says, it should be a .plt file for Tracks.

When I click on the icon to the right of the Quit icon - the one that says Load, and then I scroll down and click on one of those five options it shows Load Waypoints, Load Events, Load Track Load Routes and Load Points. I guess this is what you are doing.

A window comes up with what is in your specified folder, or you can go browse. Down the bottom is tells you it is searching for .plt tracks or .wpt for waypoints or .rte for route etc. I don't know what .trk works with but am looking around. As a Mac user I find all this a bit of an eyeopener to what PC users think is normal, but won't go there....

So this is telling me Ozi is smart in trying to only show you the type of files it needs to find to give you what you are asking for. It also shows the benefit of keeping all data type files together, even tho there seems like a hot potch of many files; Ozi sorts it through for you.

Have you loaded all the files you need off the CD you received? or download or DVD or however you received it? Can you find any .plt files???

Tim
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:30

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:30
Tim ,

I live for your instructions . When I have loaded the correct files , I will follow them .

Have you ever thought of writing a book ? How about "OziExplorer For Idiots ". I would buy the first copy .

Thanks ,

Willie .
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:37

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:37
MAPS Willie MAPS
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:42

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:42
Is that a map or .map ??? :-)

It's all too much, I'm off to Esperance :-)

Good luck team, let's see if we can stop him buying another pack of smokes!

Tim
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:41

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:41
Sorry Willie I meant to tell you in a folder of its own called Hay River,or what ever you want to call it , then put that folder in the map folder then when you click on the index it will give a double layer effect in that section of the index map

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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - David - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:44

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 16:44
Willie,

If you downloaded a MAP from plotswap you will have received 3 files: One being a .gif - the actual map image file, Second a .plt - the source plot file that was used to build the map and lastly a .map.

The instructions in the email you received say this - Save the attachments in your OxiExplorer MAPS directory. By default this is in C:\OziExplorer\Maps. Once your do this you can eithr use your index map to see the new map or use Load - Map from file and browse to the file that has the same name as the files you downloaded.

So in shorter notation: There are two parts to the PlotSwap downloaded MAP - A plot which you can load over any map using Load - Track from File (multi) or the geo-referenced image file and .map file using Index or Load - Map from File.

If you only requested the Plot then you will only have the .plt file so use the Load - Track from File (multi) option. After you have Saved the Email attachments.

Let me know if you have anymore problems.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:26

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:26
David ,

Sorry to cause you and everyone else so much consternation . As you can see below , Explorer ( Greg ) modified one of the files for me so that I could put it on my Magellan 324 MAP GPS .It was this file I was trying to load .

I have now located the correct files ( MAP from Plotswap ) and will have another go .

Thanks ,

Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:40

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:40
David ,
Should I put the plt file into DATA file and leave the other two in the MAP file ?
Thanks ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - David - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:46

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:46
Willie,

That is a good response and the answer in short is yes the plt is a DATA element however I tell users to put them both in MAP as it is easier in instructions. But the 100% technically correct answer is yes put the plt in DATA. May I additionally suggest that you create directories in both folders maybe called ExplorOz or something similar to allow you to easily identify different files. So in DATA and MAP create a sub folder called ExplorOz and put the .map and .gif in the Maps\ExplorOz folder and the plot in Data\ExplorOz.

I have sub folders in my DATA by year and trip so DATA\2006\Wilbinga etc and in maps well heaps MAPS\NatMap\2005 Premium etc. Makes it all easier down the track.

Good luck.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:50

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:50
OK David ,
Thanks for your help .
Willie .
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Reply By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 17:39

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 17:39
Hello Willie - if you cast your mind back you will remember I helped you convert the OziExplorer track files (*.plt) to Magellan format (*.trk) for your gps unit (or to load into DiscoverAus..cant remember)....anyway what you are doing is trying to load the mapsend format track file into oziExplorer....this will of course not work - you need to find the original *.plt file. I think this is what happened - it was over 1 year ago.

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:21

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:21
Greg ,

Yes , I remember , in fact I still have all the emails covering that . I cannot find the original files that were emailed to me from Exploroz . I think I will have to re-purchase them .

Oops - I just had a brainwave - I kept a copy of the email I sent to you with the files attached . Eureka !

I will load them into Ozi now .

Lucky you have a good memory Greg !

thanks a lot ,

Willie .

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Reply By: Robin - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 17:48

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 17:48
Willee

Don't be in a hurry , that plot is out of date anyway and significant track changes have occurred, in lower section.

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:28

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:28
Hi Robin ,

Well I have found the correct files now . Do you think I should load them ? I might end up lost in the middle of the desert !

Willie .
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - David - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:28

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:28
I have not heard that the current file is out of date. Do you happen to have (or have access to) an updated version?
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Follow Up By: Robin - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:53

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:53
Hi David

Its changed significantly from oil wells up. I used exploroz one when I went up June so easy to see differences.

The new plot I recorded is in 2 or 3 pieces just have'nt got round to stitching them together yet.

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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - David - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:56

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 19:56
Robin,

I would think this is the area where there is NO track - is this correct and hence a reason for difference? I would be happy to piece the data together and load it if you have it just email me at david@exploroz.com - I will be sure to award the system credits to your profile.
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Follow Up By: Robin - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 20:37

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 20:37
Hi David

Yes it was no track early last year and then a reccomended list of waypoints was released by Jol which saved several kilometers by cutting off a corner.
I believe now that that path has become more or less a track with in excess of 100 vehicles using it after we did last June.

Got a few things on but will see if can email this week.

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 20:38

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 20:38
From the shotline up to camp 16 is mostly poorly visible track. WE've travelled this section in both 2005 and 2006 and travelled as directed by Jol's 2003 waypoints. I don't think theres been any change.

But in May 2006, it was very soft, and our tracks were gone 10 minutes later with the soft sand and wind!
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Follow Up By: Robin - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 20:40

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 20:40
Hi Willee

I'd load them as 90% right and if you can wait a little while I'm sure that you will be able to update one way or the other soon.

Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Robin - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 08:05

Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 08:05
Phil

Some of those points were re issued in 2006 , particularly for several kilometers between 53J 0791639 7212169 and 53J 0792542 7216361 , new path deviates to the east and essentially cuts off a corner.

I remember from a previous post how we should have seen at least signs of your tracks last june , this would explain why we did not.

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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - David - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 10:49

Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 10:49
Robin or Phil,

Do you have the updated waypoint lists and could you email them to us please, send these to damian@exploroz.com.

Phil, thanks for the updated file I have given this to Damian and asked him to check the alignment against the recorded one and update as required.

If we can get the latest waypoint list that would be great.
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Follow Up By: Robin - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 11:19

Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 11:19
Hi David

Have sent new section plot , and also the revised may2006 waypoint list

both are in waypoint+ format but can be loaded into ozi as outlined in email

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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 20:09

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 20:09
ANOTHER QUESTION

In the configuration of paths for SYSTEM and MAP IMAGES can I just put in the path as D:\OziExplorer or must I put in D:\OziExplorer\Maps

IIf I don't put in MAPS , won't then everything be accessable , wherever it is in OziExplorer ?

Thanks ,

Willie .
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 21:56

Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 21:56
Willie - if you keep the image file and related calibration file (*.map) in the same folder it doesnt matter what you set the paths to in configuration (you can have different folders for different areas though if you want - see Daves post). When you LOAD MAP just navigate to relevant directory/folder and select a map OziExplorer will search in this same folder for the map image irrespective of what setting you have in configuration. If it cant find the image here (or in the location defined within the actual *.map file) then the setting in configuartion comes into play and defines where OziExplorer should look next for the image file. My suggestion is to keep all you images and calibration files together - one less thing that can go wrong. I have 1,000's of maps/air photos/waypoint and track files on my computer on different drives/directories/folders - I never have an issue - the configuration setting in OziExplorer is irrelevant in my case and it may as well be blank/uncheckd. Trick is to name your directories/folders and data (waypoint/track) files in a meaningful sytematic way so you know where to head to find the map or data you are looking for.

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