Stop Starting Car Fridge

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 19:01
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Hello everyone

I have a Waeco CF-50 portable car fridge, wondering if anyone knows if its ok to stop start the fridge. Let me give you and example 7am turn the fridge on set to +5deg and around 6 - 6:30pm turn the fridge off doing this about 5 days a week.

Will this shorten the life of my fridge?

Any feed back would be great

Thanks

Lyle
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Reply By: Jimbo (WA) - Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 19:11

Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 19:11
Lyle,

I have the same fridge - and while I don't know what the technical experts will say -that's exactly how I tend to operate mine. I'm sure most people do the same regardless of fridge to get the most out of their battery set-up.

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Reply By: Mike Harding - Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 19:12

Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 19:12
>Will this shorten the life of my fridge?

Nothing that you would notice.

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 19:37

Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 19:37
No

We have a similar fridge in the Softroader and it is only turned on occasionally when going shopping for supplies.

Its only an electrical appliance. Switch it on....switch it off.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 20:13

Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 20:13
>Its only an electrical appliance. Switch it on....switch it off.

That's not really correct. Many electrical items will suffer from surge currents at switch on - with some items this will cause premature wear, motors, light globes and many items of electronic equipment will fall into this category however cycling them once per 24 hours will not make any difference to long term reliability.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 18:34

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 18:34
Nothing is absolute.

Life is even more complex.

Nitpicking has become a passtime.

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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 18:50

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 18:50
>Nitpicking has become a passtime.

This is a public forum - many people on here have specialised technical knowledge - when you (or I) make a technical statement which is incorrect expect it to be corrected - don't be so precious.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:08

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:08
You bored again old fella?

Nitpicking is your trademark on this forum. You are full of tehnical nonsense which has no meaning in real life.

Not long along you nitpicked a word I used in the Afrikaans language. That time however you didn't offer to correct me as you probably didn't know the answer. I let it slide.

This time I will take you on again and we can restart the "Unholy Wars" if you wish.

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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:18

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:18
>You bored again old fella?

I'm bored with you Willem.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:24

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:24
So why raise your nitpicking issue in the first place then.

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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:33

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:33
Relax Willem: you’re making a big deal out of nothing. You made a technically incorrect statement (in the field I have spent over 30 years working in) and I, nicely, corrected it. People do it all the time on this forum – don’t get so upset.

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Nuzzles - Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 19:44

Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 19:44
Thankyou so much guys i was expecting a reply so fast. That has eased my mind now and will be happy to run my firdge on a daily basis.

Cheers

Lyle
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Reply By: Topcat (WA) - Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 20:03

Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 20:03
Have a look at one of these switches found here: Site Link
Does the job for me. Cheers.
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Follow Up By: brett - Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 20:56

Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 20:56
I wouldn't be worried about the fridge but the food inside, if you run it at +5 then turn it off for 12 hours it's probably going to get up around +10 or more by morning. Even +5 is too warm for safe storage of food should be below 4 at all times. I run mine my cf50 on 3 lights which is around -1 to +2 as I like my beer cold and food to last.
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Saturday, Feb 10, 2007 at 08:05

Saturday, Feb 10, 2007 at 08:05
Brett, your the winner....
If some-one buys a fridge they usually use it to keep food at a "safe" temperature level for human consumption, +4 max, according to WHO.

Why would they then let the food inside spoil by bacteria, salmonella etc caused by the food heating up to +8 or even above +12 etc.

Maybe they should get a more efficient fridge or a larger capacity battery system??

The fridge won't be affected as much as the battery system simply because when you start it again in the morning it has to cool down the internal space in the fridge and the food from the +12 etc back to +4 which takes longer and drains MORE power from the battery than running the fridge all night anyway. I think most fridges would only run about 3 or 4 times a night in the lower area of Australia, below 26th parallel.
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Reply By: Nuzzles - Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 21:11

Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 21:11
Topcat - Thats a nice idea but during the day the car is going to be stationary. but thanks thats good to know for friends and family as they have caravans

Brett - My purpose of running it during the day and not at night is to keep my lunch and drinks cold for the day. By the end of the day i will not have any food or drink left as it will be only supply's for that day. But yeah i totally understand where you are coming from, deff if you keep food in there all the time
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Reply By: Jimbo - Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 21:49

Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 21:49
Fridges are thermostatically controlled.

Why would anyone turn one off overnight?

If the temperature is cold, the fridge won't turn on. If it is warm the fridge will cycle to maintain a safe temp.

If you turn it off overnight and it warms up, you will draw a swag of power to get it cold again in the morning. In the mean time your food will have entered a period of dangerous temp.

Let the fridge do its job.
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Reply By: Nuzzles - Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 22:06

Sunday, Feb 04, 2007 at 22:06
Thats what I was saying before, there will be no food in the fridge over night.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 13:13

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 13:13
Hi there Nuzzles what Jimbo is getting at is that you take your food from the house fridge at say 4c then dump it in the car fridge then start it up at which stage the fridge is probably sitting at 15c and would take a little while to come down in temp at the same time your food is at an above suitable storage temp chances of food going off before you eat it. Steve M
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Reply By: Nuzzles - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:17

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:17
Awesome all great points, well i turned it on this morning before work and left it going all day. Think it killed my battery got that lovely error light on my fridge strange thow cos there was 12.23Volts in the battery even when it was running...
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Saturday, Feb 10, 2007 at 08:28

Saturday, Feb 10, 2007 at 08:28
At 12.23v there maybe no 'real' battery problem with the fridge running, as the battery has only 'lost' 0.43v depending on accuracy of test implement, and it also depends where you actually place the probe and take the voltage from, and if the voltage was taken a long time 'after' the fridge turned on, eg when it was about to turn off again, or if it was taken just as the fridge started the numbers would be affected by the larger start-up current.

Note, if you 1/2 fill the fridge with some plastic bags of water, as well as your food this will keep the internal fridge temp low and it will not 'run' as often during the day and the night.

I would run the fridge @ +2 half full of bags of water 24/7 if you are only going to put your 'daily lunch' into it each day, you may be surprised at how effective it will become as a fridge and the reductuion in run time and therefore less battery draw daily.
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Reply By: Nuzzles - Saturday, Feb 10, 2007 at 10:57

Saturday, Feb 10, 2007 at 10:57
Hey, Ive run my fridge for the last 3 days 24/7 with bottle of water in there the whole time, its been working fantastic for that time. So maybe the bottles are doing the trick kinda like your bags of water, which i never even thought about its a great idea. For some reason ive found on hot days the red error light would flash every five seconds which to me and the waeco web site that its low on power, but as soon as the ambient temp goes down the light stops flashing, that has me stumped but its been working great lately, I think after reading all these points its prob a better thing running it all the time.

Cheers guys for your help, happy to keep this forum going if anyone else has storys ect to tell.
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