How do you catch a fish?

Submitted: Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 10:40
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I’m looking for a guidebook to explain different fishing techniques and methods and equipment needed to catch fish in different circumstances etc. Does such a thing exist? I have no idea about different rods and where to use them, type of hooks etc but I’d like to learn.

I also like to know what I need to buy to get started etc. I’ve seen some reasonable looking kits at Kmart and at the local fishing shop but I really have no idea.

We live in Perth, are there any fishing courses that can teach the basics?

I know a lot of you experienced guys will laugh at this but we all have to start somewhere.
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Reply By: Robin - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:17

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:17
Wouldn't laugh at all Dustin - am not a fisher person so can't offer any advice on actual fishing.
However I would like to say that the right approach is to ask and learn as much as you can.

Have been through the experience of reading an as yet unpublished book on victorian inland fishing , and then going off with author and what floored me was just how technical it can get and the astonishing results obtained by getting behind the fishes thinking and using that to your advantage.

To have someone extract fish repeatedly from rivers after others have walked away from brings home just what the right knowledge can deliver.

Robin Miller

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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 13:20

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 13:20
Must be a small brain thing to get into a fish's mind do you think Robin? I have never managed to go that far.......... ;-) Have been told small minded some times.
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Follow Up By: Robin - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 14:41

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 14:41
I reckon we could get into a lot of trouble expanding apon your line of thinking John.

I'll be content in saying that , you can get called a lot of things hanging around these forums.

Robin Miller
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Reply By: HGMonaro - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:20

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:20
lots of 'how to books' available but I can't name one as a recommendation. Learn how to tie a decent knot.

The majority of fishing can be accomplished with a general purpose rod (about 7-8', medium action), a spinning reel, basic range of hooks and sinkers. Certain techniques may require a float, but generally the rig (how you set up your sinker/hook) can be kept pretty simple. The most import thing is to have the correct bait, and it to be fresh! Ask around, only trout fisherman are guarded in their magic spots and techniques... everyone else are usually happy to give you the latest of what and where their biting.

Some fishing is better tackeled (boom boom!) with specialised gear (beach, big game, etc) but at this stage unless you want to do that I'd suggest to get a general purpose combo (those Kmart ones are good value) and go and sit on a pier or river bank and have a go. Don't forget a licence if you need one!.

Everyone is going to have a different opinion on this topic no doubt. If I had to only have one fishing rod.. I'd probably choose a good-old Black Queen, or maybe a lighter Ugly Stick (great boat rod... most a bit heavy for general purpose although they come in all shapes and sizes these days)

cheers, Nige
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Follow Up By: Old Nick - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:52

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:52
I'll agree with the Black Queen choice - would be hard to find a better rod for King George whiting. My experience for what it's worth.
Most of the blokes in the tackle shops are pretty helpful and experienced and will generally put you on the right track.
Just be cautious if they start to sell you a heap of gear, "You don't need to buy a B-Double semi to shift a bag of spuds, when a ute will do the same job", you know where I'm coming from?

Regards Nick.
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Reply By: Thylacine - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:30

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:30
Try:
" target="EOF" class="lbg">www.fishnet.com.au/

and for knots:
http://www.fishnet.com.au/knotsrigs/knotsrigs.php

Basically, get a bait in the water, you won't catch fish without it.

ed

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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 17:48

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 17:48
ed,

That URL name opens a whole raft of possibilities.....
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 17:53

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 17:53
Waste of time! I though it was about stockings :(

:)
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Reply By: troopyman - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:42

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:42
Type in ausfish and go from there .
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:44

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:44
" target="EOF" class="lbg">www.ausfish.com.au/babf.html
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:46

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:46
Link is dead .
Go to ausfish , left hand side /hints and tits , becoming a better fisherman .
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Follow Up By: pt_nomad - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:49

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:49
Great link. Saw the hints but no tits. ;)
Paul.
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Wednesday, Feb 07, 2007 at 10:58

Wednesday, Feb 07, 2007 at 10:58
Freudian slip there . LOL
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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:47

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:47
The Kmart general purpose kits are a good cheap start. Buy one, make sure you're going to enjoy your new hobby then get a better kit and give the Kmart one to your kids or anyone else who wants it. Speak to locals, ask questions, most people are more than willing to help (in my experience).

I was laughed at a few years ago in Tassie, rocked up to an ocean rock ledge with river fishing gear and while 3 blokes took cheap shots(while catching nothing) I landed 6 Pike with a Red fin lure...
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Reply By: ed. - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:48

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:48
Can't go wrong with the ugly stik recommendation.

If you're after just general combo I reckon 6-8lb line is a start.
A 1500/2000 sized reel.
Asortment of hooks probably you'd want 1/0 suicide's.
Maybe some long shanks too for the yakka's.

Then again maybe the fishing over in the West is completely different to the East.

What kind of fish are you targeting or hoping to catch?
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Reply By: NRE - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:48

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:48
Dustin,
Suggest you go to either a book store like angus & riobertson or one of the supermarket stores - Big W,K Mart ,Target etc and just have a browse.
There are heaps of books for the beginner such as those by Andrew Ettinhausen or Rex Hunt, Steve Starling etc .
I reckon the best one is The Australian Fishing Companion - perfect if you are just starting out. Guide to rods,reels,line hooks tackle etc and also has a guide to fish species and locations.
Good Luck and have fun.
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Reply By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:55

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:55
Dustin

Use the forums as much as you can.

Some books and mags use names like lizzard to describe a fish for example. It took me ages to realise they were talking about a flathead.

At least in a forum you can ask what something means and get an almost instant answer.

As you can gather from this forum there is a wealth of knowledge that people are willing to share on forums.

Also go to a website called "bycompass" it has "moving knots that will guide you through tying knots.

Regards Boo Boo
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Reply By: Hairy - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 14:08

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 14:08
Gday
Their would be heaps of books and sites that would help but I really think you will get your best advice from the local tackle shop wherever you happen to be.
Just go in tell whoever is behind the counter you know nothing about fishing. Ask them what type of fish are bitting, what gear you need the best bait and the tide times. Books are handy for knotts ,rigs and tides but youll never beat local knowledge and Im yet to come across a tackle shop that isnt more than happy to help.
Cheers
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Reply By: Darren C - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 15:00

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 15:00
For WA theres a couple of good forums

www.fishingwa.com

fishwrecked.com

Some of the guys on it own tackle shops so could always ask them....

In terms of reference material there are a number of WA specific books on the market, most of which you will find in fishing tackle shops (and also the new BCF stores, Big W etc). This one is a pretty good one.....

www.afn.com.au/shop/scditem.asp?ProdID=51

You will also need to learn some knots and you will pick up a cheap book on these at your tackle shop.

Also, pick up a few magazines - a lot of them have beginner articles in them.

In terms of tackle, recommend the ugly stick combo - my philosophy has always to be to spend more on a decent reel than a rod (once you have made your mind up to pursue it as a hobby - in the interim the Big W combo will do). My light combo is a Penn Affinity 3000 with an Ugly stick 3-5kg rod and I bought this to cover fishing for small stuff on beach and in a boat but will easily handle some larger stuff if you manage to hook up on anything decent.

Have also recently purchased a smaller overhead reel but these are harder to cast (as I found out pretty quickly with plenty of birds nests!) so would recommend avoiding these to start with
Also have a surf rod with large spinning reel and a heavier bottom bouncing overhead reel which tends to cover everything I want to do with fishing.

Tackle wise, dont be like me and go and buy shedloads of tackle. Buys hooks as and when you need them - Baitholders are good but try and get chemically sharpened if you can to improve hook up rates.

Not sure where you are in Perth but Gotya Tackle and Camping in Balcatta is pretty good and have also had some decent advice from Ranger Camping in Osborne Park

PS I was a complete beginner a couple of years ago and its amazing how quickly you learn and pick things up

Hope this helps
Darren

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Reply By: Hero - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 16:57

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 16:57
Theres a book called Hooked in Paradise, def worth the $30 bucks.
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Reply By: Dustin - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 16:58

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 16:58
Thanks very much for all the replies, some very useful information.

I think I now have a starting point from which to embark, i.e cheap(ish) rod and some essentials and I'll see how I go form there. I now have an idea on what to look for.

And thanks to the links to various web sites and forums etc.

Much appreciated.
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Follow Up By: Road Runner - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 21:22

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 21:22
Anyone can soak a lump of bait in the water and maybe catch a fish but this is somewhat hit and miss. If you want to be successful at it then the secret lies in targeting a species – Bream, Whiting, Flathead, Mackerel, Barramundi etc.
By narrowing the field to a species you then use the correct gear, bait or lure and technique. But more importantly you fish the right location, tide, moon phase and so on.
In my early fishing days I targeted Bream in a Queensland estuary only to be constantly bitten off. The guys in the boat next to me were reeling in dozens, then the penny dropped, they were catching Tailor. By changing hook size, bait and adding a small trace I picked up four or five, but I had limited bait for Tailor and went home early. If I had only read the fishing tips that morning and rigged for Tailor the outing would have been much more productive and enjoyable.
Flathead are another great estuary species to target, particularly with lures on an outgoing tide. Study the habits of the baitfish they feed on and you will quickly catch a decent feed by emulating the baitfish with your lure or bait. On an outgoing tide the baitfish swim from the shallows to the deeper water where the Flathead lies in ambush in less than a foot or two of water. Just a hint!
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Reply By: ed. - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 16:58

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 16:58
Another thing I've learnt is to never stop going to a new place if the first few times you get nothing.

Go back a few times keeping in mind the tide and weather.

Some places fish well on run out tide, some on the run in etc...

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Reply By: KiwiAngler - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:59

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 19:59
First thing is you have chosen to start this great sport in an ideal place WA has some of the best fishing spots in Aussie (IMHO)

Try this website for staters - join the forum and yu will probably find a local on the site who will only be too glad to help you

Fishing WA site
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Jackie - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 23:51

Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 23:51
Hi Dustin,
We have a few fishing books on the site that may interest you. Please see this link for further information Site Link
Hope this may assist.
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