Fixing Jerry Cans on Roof
Submitted: Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:28
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I am wanting to mount 3 Jerry Cans on the roof rack for a trip in a few months (yes, centre of gravity will be higher than usual!). Have a roof rack basket (steel mesh type made by Roof Rack World) and steel Jerry Cans.
Do I need a special Jerry Can holder or can I just strap it down to roof rack, with a bit of rubber under it, and between cans? I really can't see any problem in just strapping it down.
Any thoughts appreciated. JD
Reply By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:41
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:41
Jdpatrol, I did this on a recent trip. I laid them on their long edge to reduce height and drag, with spouts up to minimise any leakage. (There wasn't any.) They were secured with ratchet tiedowns to the mesh rack. I used bits of old carpet under and between cans. The only problem was chafing of the tiedowns where they rubbed on the ridged cans. This was fixed with more carpet between cans and tiedowns. Worked
well after that.
HTH
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Follow Up By: Max - Sydney - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:20
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:20
Jdpatrol - for a Canning trip I did the same as
John and carried five jerries up top on my Cruiser. I filled them at the last possible spot regardless of cost so they were not heavy when travelling on the road, and emptied one of them daily as I used up fuel.
I think I was over cautious - never any real sensation of extra sway.
Max
fwiw I used the black plastic cans to minimise rubbing and they travelled fine
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Follow Up By: Diver1 - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 13:25
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 13:25
we had 2 (or maybe it was 4...i think 2) plastics on the roof....laid them on long side with marine carpet underneath...just strapped them down and they were fine....no rubbing or moving...
laura
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Reply By: draff - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:42
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:42
JD, when we travel I put the jerry cans on the roof rack. We carry two and I just ratchet strap them down. I have an old rubber camping mat that I lay the full length of the rack before I put anything on. I also wrap more rubber on any spot that will be steel on steel. Seems to work and they never come loose, get damaged or leak.
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Reply By: mfewster - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:26
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:26
A useful trick if you are carrying metal jerries. Go to a truck tyre dealer. Get a couple of BIG used tubes that they were going to throw out. Cut lengths to the length of the body of the jerry and pull them over like a condom. They should stretch on so they fit neatly. The slight curve in that length of tube straightens out and isn't a prob. This is a very effective way to stop jerries rattling/rubbing/chafing straps etc. The covers fit tightly enough so that they stay permanently on the jerries.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:53
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:53
Nice,
I like that Idea, how long do you get out of the tube before it deteriates??
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Jason S (SA) - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 18:07
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 18:07
yeah , nice one.
Gotta feel sorry for the Jerries but.....
They must feel like they were 16 again wearing rubbers.
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Reply By: mfewster - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:31
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:31
I don't know Kev. I have had
mine on for about 5 years without deterioration, but I store them in the shed when not in use
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:37
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:37
I would have thought that 1 - 2 years would have been a pretty good time frame. But 5 years is even better
Thanks Kev
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Reply By: mfewster - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:40
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:40
Kev, I don't use Jerries up on the roof a lot, As I use diesel, I am happy to have them in the vehicle behind the cargo barrier if there is room. The rubber sleeves stop them rubbing whether inside or on top. They do go on top sometimes, so thinking about it, in 5 years or so, they might only have spent a few weeks travelling up on top. But the covers cost nothing anyway. Should have said, had some mates who stretched a cover over a cover to make them really squishy but I haven't found this necessary.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:57
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:57
I was actually thinking that, that method would work better on the jerry holders on my trailer. As the metal jerries ATM are rubbing a fair bit on the sides. So I'll give it a go and as you said the tubes are free anyway
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 13:59
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 13:59
Search for photos of Stans Playdoe.. he took 19 jerrys with him on a trip in the petrol playdoe.. 3 on the lid shouldnt be an issue
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 20:59
Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 20:59
15kg x 19 jerries ... 285kg ... I bet his lid wasn't made for that ;-)
For sure that would make me worried.
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Reply By: jdpatrol - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 16:21
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 16:21
Much thanks everyone for your responses. Very helpful. JD
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 18:57
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 18:57
The carpet works
well.
We use 8mm elastic cord to secure them - 3 straps on each jerry means they never work loose. To make them safe, I have a loop on one end, and hook on the other.
It can be pretty hard to get a good seal with the fillers on the metal jerries. I know one guy who had 6 diesel jerries on his roofrack for a
Madigan Line trip - first day he had 4 of them leaking diesel all over his tent and
camp gear, which was of course unusable for the rest of the trip - ended up sleeping in the back of his troopie. So
check the seals thoroughly before you go.
The baskets often work loose -
check the bolts daily. And if the U-bolts stuff up, the 8mm elastic strap does a good job of fixing it.
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Follow Up By: jdpatrol - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 19:18
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 19:18
As always thanks for the advice Phil.
I gots to get me some of that elastic strap.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 19:57
Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 19:57
I use elastic straps a lot, but I'm sure you're aware that you can easily lose an eye if you're not careful. Thats why I prefer a loop at one end, and a hook at the other. You can secure
the loop end first on the mesh by feeding it through itself, then use the single hook to secure the load.
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Reply By: howie - Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 20:50
Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 20:50
if i have to carry jerry cans on the roof i use plastic 20L cans (had them them for years with no problems).
i can fit 3 X cans into 1 black recyle bin, i find it easier to strap down the bin on the roof rack and it stops the cans moving around.
when the cans are emptied (asap) i re-arrange the rack.
i lie the empty cans down or on end, depending on space, and use the recycle bin to carry rubbish.
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Reply By: Mobi Condo - Saturday, Feb 10, 2007 at 22:42
Saturday, Feb 10, 2007 at 22:42
Re Jerry's on the roof - be aware of fuel problems and STATIC electricity.
AT one of our CFS training sessions about 1998 or maybe 1999, we had a session on static and resulting fires destroying two (2) rigs in the NT. The owners had thought it a good idea to simply siphon fuel down to the vehicle tank and WHAM!
Static had been developed just from the flow of fuel in the plastic siphon tube and - NO MORE RIG - just a burnt out wreck! Twice over even!
Standard practice should be to literally ground the jerries (that is PUT THEM ON THE GROUND) and then open them pointing AWAY from vehicle & persons before pouring into funnel or use of supplied spouts.
Worth a thought or two!
Cheers - Mobi
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Follow Up By: jdpatrol - Saturday, Feb 10, 2007 at 23:36
Saturday, Feb 10, 2007 at 23:36
Mobi, is siphoning from Jerry's on the ground safe? I find those steel spouts too slow and was intending to siphon.
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Follow Up By: Mobi Condo - Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 07:42
Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 07:42
Knowing that petrol fumes are so volatile & invisible and static electricity is so easily generated & invisible I avoid ALL forms of siphoning of petrol and other volatile materials.
Bit hard to siphon from a grounded jerry (on the ground) up to a fuel inlet any way :-)
Yep I agree the "old hold up and empty" is a real tedious task and one can get fuel splash if not careful - but it is better than chancing a rig disaster!
From experience with fires and fire training (with LPG, Avtur, diesel etc) the Whoof and Wham are so sudden there is no time for even the first letter of an expletive! Not even time for the thought to utter it!
Cheers - Mobi
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