towing with automatic transmission

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:52
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Hi all, could anyone please give me advice on what is the best level to use on undulating terrain with a four speed automatic transmissin, (1,2,3,D) Thank you
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Reply By: spliney - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:56

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:56
Chezb

You haven't provided much detail here, but one piece of general advice is to read and heed your owner's manual.

Regards

Spliney
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Follow Up By: chezb - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:24

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:24
Spliney, the owners manual says, level 3 with sports mode, for town use up to 80km, then D with sports mode on highway travel, but no where does it say anything about undulating roads, dealer salesman says drive it like a manual, others say use 3 all the time, others say just watch the rev counter, I am confused. Thanks Chez
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Reply By: thomasando - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:03

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:03
Depends on what you're towing, if you have a transmission oil cooler installed etc. I fried an auto in a Commodore by pulling with it in D over undulating terrain, with no oil cooler towing a massive furniture van loaded with magazines. The machanic that fixed it reckoned it was because it kept dropping into overdrive and was working too hard, and that if I had run it in 3 it wouldn't have caused an issue at all...
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Follow Up By: chezb - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:32

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:32
Thanks thomasando, I have the new VE and want to tow a 16' pop top van, and the dealer says they don't need any extra transmission coolers as previous models did, but probably a good idea to try to keep it from overworking so trying to get some expert advice on this site as everyone seems to have so much experience here.
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Follow Up By: thomasando - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:54

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:54
It was a VS that I cooked, so things may have changed with the VE but I reckon towing in 3 would be cheap insurance. A new gearbox aint cheap!!
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Reply By: pedro the swift - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:13

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:13
Note: Friend cooked her VS ute auto towing a loaded trailer. Should have read the manual which states that towing a load should be done in a lower gear or "power" mode. Speed not to ecxeed about 80kmh.
From what I have learned about auto trans and torque converters etc. when lockup occurs load is driven through a rather narrow band of friction material on the torque convertor faces.
This material will wear and slip if overloaded(by speed or towing) and will overheat and boil trans fliud causing damage to seals etc.
I would suggest first that you read th eowners manual re towing then I would NEVER tow a heavy load in top gear where the convertor can lockup. A large/better oil cooler should also be fitted. Its cheaper than a replacement auto trans.
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Reply By: Scoof - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:51

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:51
I never had an issue with towing in D.
I used sports mode and always had the Holden Tow pack 2250kg H/D with Trans cooler and I towed a speedway car all over the place.About 2150kg all up.
Speedway season around these part's is in summer so some days were traveling in 40+ degree's.
I would fit a trans cooler and put your mind at ease.

Cheers Scoof. (SA)
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 22:01

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 22:01
Cobber
4th is too high for towing heavy vans, the motor will use as much fuel as if it was left in 3...the tranny will not break in 3, but will wear quicker and cause more heat buildup in 4....so it is up to you, tow in d with ecu set on power, and it wont go into 4th unless you get over 100 kms anyway, which will most probably be down hill....
I would keep it in 3rd
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Reply By: herkman - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 22:46

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 22:46
If you read the section on towing with a VE, it indicates to use the sports mode.

What this does is slow the changes so that you are not lugging in gears.

It is the towing in overdrive, at slow speeds which increases the temperature which is what kills the fluid.

Please note that your car, unlike earlier models uses Dextron 6, and you moust not use the older type.

At the moment it is not always available, but you can buy it at your Holden dealer.

Regards

Col
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Reply By: 03hawk - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 23:25

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 23:25
My VR V6 trans was been reco'd about 18 months ago. Towing my Jayco camper trailer home from last trip (up a fairly long hill) the trans oil got so hot it spewed out the breather tube and burnt on the exhaust.
I have an external cooler fitted but was towing in D, after i saw the smoke I rested the car to check problem then selected power mode and 3 for next hills with no further problems, am going away again tomorrow will only tow in 3rd this time to see if it makes a difference.
Philip
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Reply By: Muzzgit [WA] - Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 19:32

Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 19:32
I tow a Jayco camper with an auto 3.0 Patrol. I use O/D once I reach 100 klm/h and swicth back to 3 when I get below 100 klm/h and I do not push the engine to stay above 100. If the car starts slowing down as i'm going up a hill, I back off the pedal and knock it back to 3 and quite happily sit on about 95 until over the other side.
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Reply By: 03hawk - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 22:56

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 22:56
Towed the Hawk this weekend (VR V6 Comm auto with pwr button pressed and air/cond running most of the time, no problems at all.
Trans held gears longer and didn't change into top till car reached 100k.
Philip
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Follow Up By: chezb - Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 at 12:34

Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 at 12:34
Thanks 03hawk, and all people who have posted replies, gives me a bit more confidence to travel in undulating areas when I hear your experiences and understand the transmission system a bit better, hope I can help others when I get more experience.
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