4wdsystems CV Joints

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 18:16
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I have to change my CV joints in my 1995 1HZ 80 Series solid axle front cruiser.
4WDSystems has an overhaul kit for $250 and it includes
2 x CV Joints
All Gaskets and seals
4 Swivel bearings.

Has anyone used this kit before and can give me some input as to the strength (eg didn't brake the first time you put it in low range)??
This kit is a fair bit cheaper the Repco at $146 per CV Joint, plus $155 for a swivel Kit (does both sides).
Any first hand experience is appreciated.

Richard
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 18:55

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 18:55
In 30 years of owning cruisers I've never heard of anyone having to replace a front CV except after breaking one.
why are you changing them?
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Follow Up By: Richard Rose - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 19:31

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 19:31
Because i have broken one and thought i'd change them both so i could keep the good one as a spare.
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Follow Up By: donks1 - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 20:39

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 20:39
probably because its an early 80 series, before the upgrade...

donks
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Reply By: Richard Rose - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 19:28

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 19:28
Because i have broken one and thought i'd change them both so i could keep the good one as a spare.
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Reply By: Middle Jeff - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 21:22

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 21:22
Hi Richard
I am changing mine at the moment, the cruiser is on stands in the garage, have done one. The price you are looking at means they are the cheap ones and if you are working your 80 hard enough to break an original these won't last 6 months. I know Don Kytt sells both, the jap one's cost about $250 each ( I am using these )and these are the same as original, anything better will cost about $600 and I think you would be looking at doing comps to want to pay that much.
I hope this is helpful

Have fun

Craig
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Follow Up By: Richard Rose - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 22:00

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 22:00
I am thinking the original one broke due to wear, the truck has done 320 000km so it was probably due for them anyway. I don't even know where it broke, the noise just turned up so to speak. Anyway thankyou for the insight, Is the job a real differcult one or any specialist tools needed. Myself and a mate are going to give it a crack. We have the manual and the patience and he is clued up a bit on things mechanical but has never done CV's before??
Any info is good info.
Richard
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Follow Up By: Middle Jeff - Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 17:46

Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 17:46
Hi Richard

Have been away for thr weekend, this is the first time I have done them and it is easy. The manual is easy to follow. It is easy to work out if it is the CV just jack up the front, lock the hubs and start turning things.

Have fun

Craig
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 21:57

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 21:57
Richard
The Koyo original bearings for swivels have one more roller than other offerings, these hold alot of weight....you dont need to go to toyota to get them either, ring up the local bearing company and ask for koyo swivel hub bearings x4...also, i have a couple of good condition Toyota c/v's if youd prefer something stronger. I bet it was the short axle c/v...u will break it every time....there is no giv in that axle...
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Follow Up By: Richard Rose - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 22:08

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 22:08
Dozer,
I think it is the Drivers side. Thats where the noise was anyway, although the "handbrake" reckons it is the passenger side. I said it was her arse scrapping the ground lol.
I will ring a bearing place tomorrow. I am in Townsville. Give me an email at therose74@hotmail.com and let me know about your CV's you have. How much? Where you are?? Freight if you know?? etc etc etc.
Thanks in advance.
Richard
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 23:12

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 23:12
so its not actually broken then?
Are you certain your diagnosis is correct, if you arent even sure which side it came from let alone which component it came from?
Id be taking it to a place like repco or ARB and getting them to diagnose and quote it first (its a bit cheeky though) and then fix it your self if need be.
You'd feel a bit foolish to spend that money, go thru the agony of changing them (its not easy, mainly from not having the correct specialist tools) only to find they were ok and it was the diff or bearing or driveshaft etc?
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Follow Up By: Richard Rose - Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 23:17

Thursday, Feb 08, 2007 at 23:17
Good point fisho,
I will do that. I was relying on what a bloke who I pulled out of the mud said when he heard the noise as I positioned the truck, he reckon he used to work for Toyota, and he straight away said it was the CV's. Would be a good idea to get them dianosed properly though I suppose. Guess thats where I'll be tomorrow.
Thanks
Richard
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 00:51

Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 00:51
Also, as it is solid axle (not IFS with rubber boots) chances are that if one is worn out then the other is too.
If it isnt Fulltime 4wd, and hardly noticable, then I wouldnt panic about it, take your time and get all the bits together (tools and info) have a clean clear area to do it in and allow 3 times as long as you reckon!
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:08

Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:08
Richard
tell us more about the mud....if you were trying to reverse out when the noises started, it will most probably be the diff ring and pinion.....they are weak in reverse. A c/v will usually pop from rock driving where shockloading is the cause.
Drop the oil in the diff and see if teeth come out.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Richard Rose - Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 19:45

Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 19:45
If anything I was going up hill, a muddy hill, that I didn't make it up lol. there was a big step up that kept stopping me. As I never really heard a big bang or anything I am not sure where it happened, the only thing I know for sure is, there is no noise when the wheels are straight or turned a little but turn it towards the lock and a bit before that and then you hear it. Not nice. Only when in 4WD too. Good idea about the oil too.
Thanks Richard
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Reply By: rigged100 - Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 18:27

Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 18:27
Hi Richard,
whilst i have not purchased actual CV joints from 4wd systems, i have in past purchased transmission gear such as a 80 series 4wd/ 2wd with free wheeeling hub conversion kit had travelled over 160,000kms without any hasles.
so i dont believe you will have any issues with it.
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Follow Up By: Richard Rose - Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 19:48

Friday, Feb 09, 2007 at 19:48
Thankyou rigged100. You would think that if the transmission stuff is good thaen the CV's would be too. I may just have to take the pluge and then Post here to tell everyone else what they are like.
Someones gotta go first.
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