converting full time to part time 80
Submitted: Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 14:25
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Member - Geoff W (VIC)
hi all,i am interested on the pros and cons of converting my 80 series to part time 4x4. if anyone who has done it can advise me of whether it was worthwhile i would love to hear back from them.
cheers
Reply By: Member - Tim - Stratford (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 17:02
Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 17:02
Geoff,
A fair few of the LCOOL'ers have done this mod - apparently one of the easiest to do.
I haven't got around to doing it yet on my 100s but it does seem an easy mod as per the Lccol site (in the tech section).
www.lcool.org/index.html
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 02:43
Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 02:43
If youve got ABS on your cruiser, it will be disabled after fitting as the sensors run on the inside of the hubs.
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 18:29
Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 18:29
Why? unless you intend to keep it forever you won't notice any decrease in drivetrain wear, I never noticed any difference in fuel consumption running in H4 or H2 with hubs locked or unlocked and unless you fit free wheeling hubs you will still be pushing the front drivetrain via the wheels which is probably less efficient than pushing it with the transmission.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 02:42
Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 02:42
pretty sure the kit comes with the FWH included?
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Follow Up By: Redback - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 20:45
Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 20:45
Have to agree WHY??
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Reply By: Member - Dedalus (SA) - Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 19:00
Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 19:00
Why?
Why lose the superiority of the full time 4wd?
Toyota system is a lot more safe then part time 4wd ...
I have an 80 series and I'm driving for work every day a landcruiser 100 series. Some time my company rent a Nissan T/D .... and I can feel it!
Luca
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 19:08
Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 19:08
I know 4WD-Systems promote it as a good idea, but then they have an axe to grind ... you can't fit their Lokkas to a Full-time 4WD.
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Follow Up By: Redback - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 20:48
Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 20:48
Then they should tell owners of fulltime 4WDs of Trutrac front locker aspecially designed for full time 4WDs with ABS and Traction control.
Baz.
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 21:26
Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 21:26
Nice point ... I guess they don't seel them ;-)
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Reply By: Member - Geoff W (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 20:11
Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 20:11
thanks to all who answered,seems it's question that divides alot of people.thanks again !
cheers
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 20:14
Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 20:14
You still havent answered why you want to do it... that may assist people give a better answer.
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Reply By: Robnicko - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:24
Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:24
Geoff,
When my front tailshaft uni packed it in I removed the shaft and drove it
home (centre diff locked) as 2wd (rear) and for 3 days before refitting the front shaft. My observations were that the car definetly took off harder and basically flew.
However accellerating / handling round bends suffered as did braking. I noticed that when braking with 2wd it seemed worse compared to 4x4 where all wheels are working together.
As far as economy goes I didn't notice any difference.
best to leave it as it was meant to be if you asked me.
Rob
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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 10:16
Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 10:16
Geoff,
Had my '94 GXL done a couple of years ago (see post 29976 for some extra info). Have just come back from 6 months away and did not notice any reduction in capability. Fuel consumption? Maybe better, but certainly no dramatic change. The car does drive better and is quieter, but constant 4WD is good on the road as
well as off so you need to consider that as
well.
If you read the above post you will see that I had
mine done for specific reasons, but if there are no problems with your drive train at the moment, my advice would be leave it alone.
Matt.
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Reply By: Dougmac - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 17:19
Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 17:19
Hi Geoff,
I did
mine before our trip last year because there was heaps of backlash in the drive-line (mostly from the front axle) and to get the improvement in driveability and economy. The backlash problem disappeared the other two supposed improvements didn't show up. In fact one thing that did show up was a horrible front end shudder that occurred after a sharp bump (always on bitumen). This problem never occurred while the front wheels were being driven! If I was doing it again I'd put my money towards having the front axle rebuilt, i.e diff, C.V., Joints and swivel bearings. Hope this helps.
Doug
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