Ten Canoes

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 19:13
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I had a look at "Ten Canoes" yesterday depicting Aboriginal life centuries prior to European settlement.

It's interesting how this film compares to another made back in the early 1960s on Billinuna Station.

We showed the latter to a number of Aborigines a few years ago. The young one's couldn't believe it. Some laughed and the others sat there stunned because they've never seen pictorial evidence of their past.

What I found interesting was that one film was essentially told by current day Aboriginies, and the other in a documentary form, depicting life on a cattle station back in the 60s.

Regards

Kim
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 19:30

Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 19:30
Kim ,
Gee I'd like to see the early documentary . I have fished in the Arafura Swamp when we were fishing out of a camp near Manangrida .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: kimprado - Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 20:00

Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 20:00
Willie

I don't have my copy at home (loaned it to a mate) but will see if I can get it returned next week.

It's a documentary made by a Canadian film company. The film was called The Great ?????.

Essentially it follows the Station Manager's antics (he's still alive and a mate of mine) but has a strong Aboriginal theme and depicts their life in the 60s on a cattle station.

If your interested in the Arafura swamp, Ten Canoes is available in DVD stores.

Regards

Kim
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Reply By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 22:16

Sunday, Feb 11, 2007 at 22:16
Same same Willie, Kim. Reckon you just might be swamped (no pun intended) by similar requests.
Mate, I couldn't organise a screw in a brothel: is there some way that the older film could be made easily accessable? Jeff.
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Reply By: Footloose - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 07:58

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 07:58
Kim, interesting stuff. There used to be a film titled "Aboriginals of the Western Deserts" I think, made yonks ago. It depicted aboriginal people around the 1900's I'd guess. But it was still being shown to schoolchildren in the 70's, giving them a very wrong picture. I wonder how many still have those sort of memories when thinking of modern aboriginal lifestyles?
There's a story I tell about a classroom full of aborigininal kids and a Science teacher who still thought that they hunted and ate snakes. In fact they were terrified of them. Talk about stereotyping !
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Reply By: Member - Barnesy (SA) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 12:26

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 12:26
Ten Canoes is a fantastic film. I saw a documentary on the making of it, and the actors in it were proud to make it as it kept alive their history and cultural stories.

There were some problems finding actors as the only people who could portray the original characters could be descendants of them. There was only one person who could play a particular character and half way through he decided that he'd had enough so just walked off LOL. Luckily he came back later on to film some scenes that he was required to be in.

Barnesy
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Follow Up By: HowdyDoody - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 12:55

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 12:55
Barnesy, I saw the same documentary - and have not yet seen the film. After watching the documentary I am very keen to see the film.
The elder that wandered off and came back was great. It's hard to imagine the conflict going on in his head.
Another thing I learnt in the documentary is that the aboriginal people agreed to make the film as it was an opportunity for them to show the younger people in their community how life was and expose them to something they could do to feel proud of while learning about their culture in generations past - instill some pride in them. Blo*dy good on 'em.
Can't wait to see the film and I would love to see another doco on the same community in the years following the film and the outcomes.
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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 13:14

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 13:14
Off the original subject a bit, but the family and I saw a documentary called The Last of the Nomads, which was shown at the interprative centre in Karijini NP. A very interesting film which:

'tells the moving story of Warri and Yatungka, the last of the Mandildjara people to be living a traditional nomadic lifestyle in the remote Gibson Desert of central Australia. Like an antipodean version of Romeo and Juliet, it emerges that they became the last nomads because they had married outside their tribal laws and eloped to the most inaccessible of regions. In 1977 the land was stricken by a severe drought and their tribal elders mounted a search for them with the help of a party of white men led by Dr Bill Peasley and one of their own number, a childhood friend named Mudjon. The film takes Dr Peasley back into the desert to relive his momentous journey with Mudjon and culminates with poignant archival footage of the elderly couple found naked and starving'.

It was a fascinating doco and amazing to see the archival footage and realise that these events took place only 30 years ago.

Matt.
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Follow Up By: equinox - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 17:33

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 17:33
Haven't seen the documentary, but the book is a good read!


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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 18:44

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 18:44
Equinox,

Didn't realise that there is a book. Is it the same name?

Your Cruiser looks good BTW.

Matt.
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Follow Up By: equinox - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 19:25

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 19:25
Hi Matt,

Yes - Book by the same name by WJ Peasley.

First published 1983 Fremantle Arts Centre Press. I have seen it still, every now and then in the bookshops. Mine is the fifth reprint.

I did speak to the ever modest Dr. Peasley about his adventure a few years back. He seemed quite bemused by it, how anyone would want to make a documentry about it.

Cheers about the Cruiser, I'm just tired of driving it around the city. :)


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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 19:46

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 19:46
Equinox,

Thanks, will keep an eye out for it. I was really moved by what is essentially a love story in the most unlikely of circumstances. Ditto for the city driving, too mch time on this damn forum and not enough out there.

Matt.
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Follow Up By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 at 00:07

Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 at 00:07
The book is a great read
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Reply By: PhilZD30Patrol - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 13:56

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 13:56
Hello Kim

I wonder if the Film Sound Archives in Canberra has a copy of the documentary film from Billinuna Station?

If they don't I am sure they would be interested in making a copy if anyone could get their copy to them. They would register and catalogue the film so that it was never lost.

Cheers
Phil
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Reply By: kimprado - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 17:09

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 17:09
Willie

I remembered the name of the documentary after closing the computer down:

The Great Unfenced (Directed by Harry Atwood).

I did a quick Google search at work, but couldn’t find anything of value on the subject. A search of the National Film and Sound Archives (NFSA) was also unsuccessful.

Once I get the film back, I’ll send you a copy and another to the NFSA (it could be the only copy left).

Regards

Kim
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