Paj again won't start

Submitted: Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 07:42
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Greetings again, After geeting the water leek which still I have not check properly yet, another problem has arised went for ten minute outing on sunday get back to the heap and she wont start, motor turns but wont fire up. After a check up by the RACV he said that it more than likely the module in the distributer as there is power going but not comming out, cheched out the dist it looks pretty knackered at the contacts, does this diagnosis sound right?.......
Cheers...Hazz
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Reply By: Oldsquizzy (Kununurra) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 08:41

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 08:41
Thats what i like about this job. The three of us here are all in there fifties and you go to a job check it out and test for what is wrong, Tell the owner arrange for a tow and they ask there mate the fisherman from across the road if we were right. LOL..Ah well thats life
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY (VIC) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:28

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:28
Gday Squizzy
I am an old mechanic and my son doesn't like to be informed about things either.
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:28

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:28
Not a lot of info.
Which motor are we talking about?
If it is a paj (year?) with a dizzy and module in the dizzy, would I be right in guessing it is a 84 to 88 with a 2.6l?
Obviously it is not a diesel since it has a dizzy :o)
If it is the 2.6l, yes the modules do break down. Used to always carry a spare.

Now if the RACV bloke reckons it is gone, I think that is the first thing to replace!
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Follow Up By: harry56 - Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:53

Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:53
She's a 92 nh Paj 3 litre petrol no spark comming out of the dizzy, she was working fine stopped to picked up a couple of items get back and the bloody thing refused to start
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:50

Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:50
Harry,

I don't know the V6's that well.
Had a 2.6l 4 cyl, and now a diesel.

If you have done all the usual checks, like coil, power to the dizzy etc, and no spark coming out of the dizzy on any of the 6 leads, as you say, it must be in the dizzy. You usually get some spark in the leads, even if it is arcing/shorting somewhere such as across the inside of the cap.

I think this one has points. If you turn the engine by hand with ignition on, do you get a spark at the points. Often you can hear it as a click, even if you can't see it. If it is low voltage witht he module I suppose you may not hear it.

You have checked to make sure the carbon button onto the rotor and the rotor is OK? Have had that carbon button drop out once. Another time, the rotor lost it's drive key and just spun around freely.

Maybe it is time to overhaul the dizzy. If it has a few K up, might be a good idea.
As you say it looks pretty bad in there, maybe points, module and a look at bushes etc. New cap, new rotor.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:55

Tuesday, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:55
Not sure if you understand the module.
So just in case.
The module acts as an electronic set of points.
The points still work, but at a lot lower voltage. Lower voltage, less wear, more reliable timing. The points trigger the module for timing, and the module sends the high voltage to the spark plug via the rotor.
If you have a coil module at the spark plug (I don't think the 3l V6 does though), the coil is triggered there for the high voltage spark.
From memory, that it how it works, but open to correction.
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:56

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:56
I'd go to the pub late on Friday night and get some real expert opinions, stuff the RACV. ;-)

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Follow Up By: Oldsquizzy (Kununurra) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 15:14

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 15:14
lol...And I hope yopu follow all the advice they give you....
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 15:27

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 15:27
Sheite yeah, Friday night advice was probably how I ended up divorced!! ;-)

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Follow Up By: Oldsquizzy (Kununurra) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 18:13

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 18:13
Half the men in aus have friday night at the watering hole to blame for divorce
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 20:28

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 20:28
To be entirely honest Squiz, I haven't been to a pub on a Friday night out with the boys for over 20 years!!

But I still think that's a better source of information than the RACV!! ;-)

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Follow Up By: Member - Ross A (QLD) - Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 23:05

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 at 23:05
I haven't been to the pub for a night sesh SINCE I got divorced
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