I need to get my bearings.
Submitted: Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 00:06
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Footloose
The rear wheel carrier has managed to spit some bearings. At least without taking it apart (yet) I suspect that's what's happened. (the tyre she is wobbly mate...tightened the bolt, still wobbly) Talked to the manufacturer and they told me that there are 2 lots of trailer bearings to replace, "yeah mate, just go to with the numbers of the bearings to Repco".
Fine.
But here's the rub. I've never replaced bearings before.
Is it a hard job with hand tools ?
If I go on a longish onroad trip (2000k, no offroad), what are the chances of the whole assembly falling off ? (none I hope :)
Naturally I've discovered the problem only days before having to attend a conference down near the big smoke. So either I do the job or I don't go.
TIA
Reply By: Dave198 - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 00:17
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 00:17
Do the job or get it done otherwise the wheel might beat you to the conference.
Dave
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 00:19
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 00:19
heheh...Its a new tyre on it, don't want to drop it into someone's lap.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 05:03
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 05:03
Mr Footloose,
Am terribly embarrassed and abushed(no I don't use spell-
check. Why would you ask?George doesn't)
to find that you appear to have been cast adrift by the Good Friends. Why, it was but recently that one of The Band, Mr Tell, [or was that Willem, tell me], proffered soothing words to a Damsel in request: yet your appeal for aid slides beneath the radar
Such is the way of men, One may guess.
Insincerely,Ferdinand
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:15
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:15
Ah, such is the price of being Mr Nice Guy. Looks like I'm just going to have to suck it and see :)))))
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Reply By: Kiwi Kia - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:00
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 07:00
Don't go I said, don't go, but he didn't listen and he never returned !!
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:14
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:14
I told him, Julie Baby, don't go ! But he did and the Ides of March are upon us.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:09
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:09
Et tu Footy :))))
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:30
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:30
Yes Al, me too :))
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Follow Up By: Kiwi Kia - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:58
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:58
Rinse The Blood Off My Toga (Wayne & Schuster)
Gee, we are showing our age :-))
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:42
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:42
I once took a phone message for a new female member of my team (in a far off galaxy, long ago). Her husband left a message, "Don't forget the Toga tonight."
Can you imagine my thoughts ?
Turned out they were off to a fancy dress party.
Obviously I hadn't given her enough work. Nobody else knew the meaning of the word, "Party". :)))))))
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:47
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:47
Ah, but I am with the Ides of March, F'loosie. Did they wear underwear with Togas? We know about kilts done't we.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:52
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:52
John it must be Friday, underwear indeed. I always wondered about that scottish drinking salute, "here's lookin up yer kilt".
As for Togas, I never thought to ask. Certainly in Caligula's day that would have been the case. But then, his horse probably did.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:18
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:18
I'm assuming it's either a Kaymar or Opposite Loack carrier? If so, they do use standard sets of bearings and very easy to replace. The only difficult part may be getting the old ones off! But you just need to get physical with em!!!
Once you've got the old ones off, clean up the stub axle, grease the new bearings thoroughly (I have a nifty tool for assisting in this task) and re-assemble the whole lot. Tighten the castle nut with a spanner, making sure it is not too tight (need to still be able to swing the carrier arm) and then insert the split pin and dust cap. Job's right!!!
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:16
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:16
Getting physical with the old ones, eh ? Sounds like the ol cold chisel jobbie to me :))
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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:11
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:11
Footloose
I find it hard to believe the wheel will fall off. After all, you only use the bearings to make it easy to open - it might be rattly and annoying, but can't see it falling off. Not like wheel bearings on the others!
To be sure, you could find a way to tie it on - a rope down to the towbar and maybe up to roof rack or somewhere would make sure it stays there. You could even take the wheel off and throw it in the back if you have room, and just tie the carrier to be sure.
Its an easy job to replace them anyway and if you do them up too tight or over grease them (people normally do one of them first time and they overheat) it won't matter on the carrier.
Bummer the way things go wrong just before a trip.
Max
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:18
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:18
Thank you for your reassurances. I was thinking along those lines myself. However I'll try and take it off and apart this morning and see what falls out . If all else fails, I really shouldn't need the second spare ...its only a road trip :)))
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Follow Up By: Kiwi Kia - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 11:00
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 11:00
Overheating, cracking etc. There really IS a possibility of the wheel or stub axle failing completely.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 11:04
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 11:04
Kiwi, hmm...am in the middle of it at the moment. Will post later tonight with my "discoveries", might be handy for anyone else who'se never done them before.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:40
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:40
Kiwi Kia,
You do realise he's talking about a swing away spare wheel carrier...
Dave
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Follow Up By: Kiwi Kia - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 06:59
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 06:59
Well spotted Dave, Initially I did not.
When I saw the light I thought it might be easier to keep quiet and hide for a while :-))
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:56
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:56
Gday Footlose
Sounds like the erfect opertunity to learn how to do a wheel bearing to me - even if it gets stffed up a bit the conseqences won't be anywhere near as bad as one on a road wheel....best to do hese things in front of a knowlegable mate, who should just sit back and drink cans offering advice......
Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 11:02
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 11:02
Sadly, all my mates appear to be non mechanical when there's a job to be done LOL
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 13:40
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 13:40
Jim
Roachie has it right, pretty easy and for a bloke with your talents for all things technical should be a piece of piss.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 13:50
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 13:50
John, there's technical and there's mechanical. Mechanical I'm not LOL
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Reply By: Footloose - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 13:49
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 13:49
Interim report.
Up early in the humidity, bash crash boom as I get physical with the unit. Not much happens. OK
well I'll cheat. Dive 20K and "naaah too busy, try down the road. Another 10k and they're closed. Buggar. Driving
home and oh yes, those people did my wheel bearings. Short story long, they take it off, murmer things about rusted sleeves and bearings and presses and ...
well you get the idea. I'm now at
home recovering from the stress.
They will ring me this avo when they've finished, and then pop it back on.
Pity...I would have liked to have hung around, but not in this heat. A description will have to do.
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Follow Up By: Dustin - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 18:12
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 18:12
Arm chair mechanics, I love it.
Make sure you pick up a bot of grease for under your fingernails when you pick your 4by up, got to be able to back up the story for the pub later.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 18:50
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 18:50
Not really. I know what I can do and what I can't. They are having to machine up a new solid centre bit instead of the hollow one thats been holding things together. How many people have the workshop facilities to do that at
home ? Not me.
I know when to have a go, and when to take it to the experts.
Changing the oil and filter tomorrow will spread enough oil and grease to last me a long time.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:41
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:41
Or you could service an 8558 Jim...
:o)
Dave
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:39
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:39
Dave, that's not a thought I like tio have before breakfast !
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Reply By: John Davies - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 11:41
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 11:41
Most likely the bearings are ok and you just need to do up the castleated nut. Maybe there is no split pin.
If you do replace the bearings they are standard holden trailer bearings (kaymar carriers). Just replace the races.
Theres not much load on them in comparision to when on a car.
John D
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