Another lokka question ?
Submitted: Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 21:51
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mrbasilbrush
Just wondering how do auto lokka`s or any type of locker react with just one front hub locked in ?
Do they drive the wheel that is locked in so it would respond as a normal 4WD diff would,reasonable steering and traction etc ?
So if you get into real trouble you can just lock the other hub in ?
Hope this is not a silly question but I just don`t know, cause I don`t have lockers yet.
cheers.
Reply By: SA_Patrol - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 22:28
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 22:28
Is this in 2wd or 4wd mode
I got auto hubs so I can't answer than Q :-)
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:24
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:24
3wd mode of course
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:00
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:00
Good question, sitting here trying to picture in my head how it would work. I would imagine that by locking one hub in being with the locker it would also be turning the axle on the other side but wheel would still be free wheeling. I would imagine that it would put alot of strain on one of the axles (the one locked in) with only one locked in. We all know that you should lock both in any way but good point.I'm sure an expert on lockers will come along and fill us in on what or if any damage would be done to the drive train by doing this and if your theory is correct. I still wouldnt be doing it either way on solid ground tar etc will still end up with wind up I would imagine. Steve M
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:39
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:39
I`d say the locked wheel would have to be under load as autolockers only unlock.
So you would have a 3wd, not much difference to a normal front diff.
I was thinking of it being used as only for light offroading like cruisng along beach sand or easy going offroad tracks just so you can have easy steering.
But certainly would`nt try it for steep inclines or deep ruts etc.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:49
Thursday, Feb 15, 2007 at 23:49
Autolockers like the lokka and lockrite are treat for lite stuff as they allow easy steering all the time, much better than trying to steer with a AirLocker locked.
No need to reduce the effect with only one hub locked, theyare designed to release for cornering
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 00:41
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 00:41
Thanks bonz, I just thought they might have been a bit harder to steer for light duty work also.
But your right with the airlockers, my mate has them and he reckons he can hardly steer it with fronts locked in.
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Reply By: V64Runner - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 03:08
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 03:08
My 4Runner has an Ezi- Locker in the front and a Detroit in the rear. Never had any problems with the Ezi -Locker or the Detroit. I tend to forget that they are even in operation when off road clambeing up slippery hills or on loose gravel inclines . Whats more never had any problems with steering the front end . It goes where ever I point it. Have had Detroits and Ezi Lockers ever since they forst came out and prefer them any day over Air Lockers. No control if any when it comes to trying to turn. The Air locker just wants to push you straight on. Cant understand why any one would use and Air Locker - but then each to his own
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Follow Up By: Tony - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 12:50
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 12:50
What I don't understand is why people think you carn't turn with a air locker in the front. If it gets to the stage where you want to turn on hard flat ground you don't need the locker engaged anyway.
If you are still in mud or going up a loose
hill the vehicle will turn no worries. I know as I have had them in front and back of previous vehicle for over 7 years.
I have also had detroits in the rear of a V8 crusier and with the power on still remains locked when you want to turn. Back off it will unlock.
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Reply By: Member - Vincent A M (NSW) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 09:21
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 09:21
yes it will work that way, (have arb air locker in front) found that out when one of my auto hubs did not lock in but you will notice the pull to the side that is locked in. (not recommended & would not recommend the old welded locka with the hub doing the work of the diff, been ther done that on a old craper)
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Follow Up By: Member - Vincent A M (NSW) - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 09:23
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 09:23
sorry it only works on a manual locka not a auto
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Reply By: D-Jack - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 11:57
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 11:57
I wouldn't even know my Lokka is there when driving on beaches, even harder sand, until you start plowing through the softer stuff with 40psi in the tyres and it just keeps on plowing! I haven't even really noticed any difference in steering at all in the 99 TD Jackaroo, can't even hear the unit lock/unlock, but it's definitely working. Mines' in the front of course!
D-Jack
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Reply By: Twinkles - Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 12:55
Friday, Feb 16, 2007 at 12:55
What would you expect to pay for a lokka to installed in the front diff of an IFS Hilux?
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Reply By: V64Runner - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 10:33
Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 10:33
My Ezi Locker cost me $1075 fully installed adn the Detroit was about a $80 more expensive. At least they work when they are most needed, and the best part is that I dont even know that they are there. At least I can concentrate on where I am aiming to place the the wheels and not have to worry about switching air lockers on adn off all the time. The rear locker beats the hell out of a LSD - especially Toyota LSD`s which are notorious for wearing out in no time at all.
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 17:56
Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 17:56
HI, Would you have any Idea if the Ezi Locker is much different to the lockright or Lokka ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Geordie C (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 01:07
Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 01:07
Have a look on their respective websites, I found a lot of info a while ago but sorry do not have the web address at the moment.
Lokka (by 4WD systems) is a very similar copy of the US made Lockrite (by
Richmond I think). They replace the
spider gears in the centre of the diff with a pair of square tooth interlocking dog clutch rings that are held by pins and springs to un-lock when there is differential force on the axles from a wheel turning. I think the Detroit made Ezi-Locker is a bit more sophisticated in the un-lock pin and spring set up.
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Reply By: V64Runner - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:45
Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:45
Hi mrbasilbrush. To be totally honest with you I have to say I truthfully do not know the answer to your question. I wish I did, but dont want to start clutching at straws in the hope that I am giving you the right answers to your question when in fact I might be totally wrong. Lets see if there is anyone out there who can give an honest and an unbiased answer. All I know is that the Ezi Locker was recommended by the
shop in
Perth who deals with all this gear , and these guys all own very heavily modified 4x4s . I was also advised that with the IFS setup in the front, the Ezi- Locker was more suited than any of the other lockers. There really wasnt much difference in the price, so price was not a factor when it came to having the lockers installed. Thats the best I can do for you.
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