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Submitted: Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 07:19
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Has anyone successfully carried extra fuel inside the car?
I have been told that with new containers and putting them inside the
red, white and blue striped bags will stop the smell.






Has anyone successfully used a water bladder with no leaks
and how did you tie it down??



Lloydy
22 days to the Cape in July
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Reply By: Mick - Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 09:03

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 09:03
I carried petrol in a black plastic fuel container with no smells - I made sure it was airtight and washed any spills from the outside of course
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Follow Up By: Tony - Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 08:29

Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 08:29
I agree with Mick the black RHEEM 20 lt jerry cans with the screw lids seal really well with no leaks at all. I have had one in the sun all day in a trailer being towed by my 4 wheeler while I have been fenceing, it swelled a bit and a great rush of fumes when opened but no sign or smell other wise.

Not a drama to carry around in the back of a vehicle as long as its well straped down and only fill when required.
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Reply By: Member - Raymond - Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 09:12

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 09:12
Hi Lloydy
How much fuel do you need to carry?
Petrol or Deisel?
Do you have a roof rack that you can put them on?
Water Bladders: several in my club have them and no problems, they are fitted in the floor well behind the front seasts and strapped to the seat mountings.
On fuel, the longest distance without fuel would be 400Klms on the whole trip
Raywanderin' in retirement. victor 2010
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Follow Up By: Lloydy - Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 09:28

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 09:28
Raymond

2 x 20 litres
V8 petrol
No roof rack

The trip that I will be doing has 3 days where I will need this much extra.
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Reply By: Mick - Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 09:44

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 09:44
Lloydy, I have carried water very successfully in 5l plastic bottles - from a pharmacist friend who bought alcohol in them (for pharameutical purposes} but many other products come in them too. I found them easy to handle, they packed well being rectangular, and had one leaked I would only have lost 5litres.
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Reply By: Truckster - Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 10:38

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 10:38
I thought it was illegal to carry Petrol inside a car?
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Reply By: Member - Cocka - Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 13:41

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 13:41
I agree with Truckster, if it isn't then it should be. I believe good management is a balance of optimism and pesimism, look at the worst possible scenario - what is likely to happen in an accident, what happens if fumes slowly leak and you get an electrical spark from something - BOOM.
Make some other arrangement or forget the trip.

Good quality water bladders don't leak - cheap ones do.
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Reply By: Member -BJ (Sydney) - Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 13:42

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 13:42
Used 51ltr bladder in high country2001 & simpson in 2002 on problems
lays on floor behind front seats not fastened does not move. I hope you don't smoke ? Wish i was still here / Gulf in July
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 14:57

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 14:57
Yep..... often. ... and felt silly every time I did it. I think carrying fuel inside the vehicle is not a good idea. I do take a jerrycan into town to fill everysooften but always feel like I shouldn't have... seeing as though I've got a trayback cruiser as well. Fumes are pretty dangerous, as the danger of spills in particular during a collision.

So.... this Easter the big job is to fit the auxiliary tank I've had under the carport for the last year!

Royce www.funshow.com.au
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Reply By: Lloydy - Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 15:17

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 15:17
No it is not elligal to carry fuel inside the car.


BJ
That 51ltr bladder was it full of fuel??






Lloydy
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Follow Up By: Member -BJ (Sydney) - Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 15:31

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 15:31
yeah of course.:)Wish i was still here / Gulf in July
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Reply By: Rob - Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 16:48

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 16:48
This is for diesel!

On the Canning, we had 3 x Plastic Jerries = 60L + 4x20L emptied oil
drums. We emptied first the drums then the jerries into the vehicle
tanks at the start of each day. Then put the empties on the roof rack. One of the drums had a slight leak from the lid.The others worked well.
The vehicle was a 1HZ cruiser with sub-tank. Tip - make sure your containers are sitting on a flat level surface within the vehicle and are securely ratcheted down. Also check them daily for leaks.

After a 10 month trip - we only occasionally used the jerries (e.g. Gunbarrel, Canning, Simpson or to avoid high fuel prices). The drums
worked well and could be picked up for free from servos and binned
at the end of a trip section - freeing up space.

I'm not sure of the legality of non-approved fuel containers - but they did the job & I would use the same idea for the next trip instead of buying jerries which only saw occasional use.

Rob (flameproof jacket on!)
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Follow Up By: Member - Bob - Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 09:51

Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 09:51
Rob, even if you paid 40 c more a litre for a 100 L that's an extra $40. In the scheme of things that isn't much really. To deny the punters who provide fuel at remote locations a few bucks means it is less economically viable for them, and the practice is less likely to persist. This isn't a flame, but I am reminded of people who drive across town to get fuel for a cent a litre cheaper.
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Reply By: Member - Willem- Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 20:39

Sunday, Apr 06, 2003 at 20:39
I have been going bush since the late 1960's and have always carried spare fuel inside the vehicle. Have never had a problem. Just do periodic checks on the cap seals on the jerrycans and replace them if necessary. At present I carry 80 litres petrol inside the G60.Cheers, Willem

Never a dull moment
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Reply By: lizard - Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 10:01

Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 10:01
I carried 11 steel Jerry cans inside my Pajero (ratchetted down tight) when I did the CSR in 1992 ... had one leak from near handle half way down the CSR - emptied it and put it on the roof rack (smelt before actual petrol leaked)..... no other problems - couldn't carry all that on the roof rack.
My mate carried 10 jerries in his FJ60 cruiser - no probs. No smoking on trip .
Is not illegal to carry fuel inside - but i think there is a limit - read that somewhere ......
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 10:07

Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 10:07
Just for a bit of laugh (but with a certain amount of seriousness)with a question like "Has anyone successfully carried extra fuel inside the car?" your not likely to get any replies from unsuccessful attempts! Crispy critters don't usually speak. Obviously depending on diesel or Petrol one is obviously easier to carry than the other due to the different flash points. Put something between metal cans to stop rubbing and posible sparking.We have so little time to enjoy our land
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Follow Up By: Lloydy - Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 22:32

Monday, Apr 07, 2003 at 22:32
Never thought of it like that but you are right.

It seems that the only people that have had bad experiences with fuel in cars are those selling Aux tanks HHHMMMM.



Thanks for your input guys.

will take 2 secured tightly and only fill when needed.


Lloydy

less than 12 weeks to go but who is counting?
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