Front springs leaning
Submitted: Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 11:15
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mrbasilbrush
I dont understand this problem.
I had king springs on the front of my hilux. When they are new the driver side spring has more camber than the passenger side, as to allow for weight of driver,and supposedly there is meant to be more weight on driver side of vehicle.
But from new when I put them in the vehicle it was leaning down on the passenger side around 25mm.
So I bought a new set of H/D carrolls springs (EFS). Again the driver side has more camber. And it still leans to passenger side 30mm .
OK, I have a second battery on passenger side but could`nt see this as a problem especially when they are just fitted .
The rear has only 5mm lean.
Have equal tyre pressures all round.
The guy at carrolls said they normally lean towards the driver side thats why they make the driver side with more camber.
I have`nt give the vehicle rough times as to twist the chassis.
I`m thinking of replacing the passenger side spring with a driver side spring ?
Has anyone had this problem ?
Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 12:46
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 12:46
Silly question I know, but you have taken the car for a drive and let
the springs settle in?
You havn't just taken the car off the jacks and measuring ride height before a lap or two around
the block? Hopefully with a few bumps to extend
the springs?
Yes, most springs have more camber on the drivers side.
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:20
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:20
Thanks Oldplodder,
But yes I have had
the springs in for 4 months now, so they have settled but still leaning.
But when they are side by side new there seems to be a huge camber difference.
I weigh around 83kgs, and when I jump in the vehicle the drivers side would be lucky to drop 5mm at the most.
I went to the factory where the make them and the guy said yes they were fitted correctly to their appropriate sides, and basically just shook his head and said
"I DUNNO MATE".
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:08
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:08
What model hilux you talking about ?? Steve M
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:21
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 13:21
89` LN106 D/CAB DIESEL.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 15:05
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 15:05
Same a
mine. I was told (not sure on correct part name) but where
the springs locate on top of the diff that these wear out and can only be fixed by either (1) getting new diff housing (2) pull out diff and get these rebuilt up to original specs. Now how true this is I have no idea but was told myn are slightly worn when new springs went in 12 months ago but I would have thought they would wear out the same on either side. I have OME in myn and dont have your problem but I doubt that different springs makes would be an issue. Would the rear springs be causing it to lean that way ?? Just a thought. Maybe one of them is knakered and causing the vehicle to lean. Steve M
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 16:12
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 16:12
Thanks steve, I`ll
check those out. I know the parts you are mentioning but I can`t seem to see them wearing out ?.
Did you get my
forum , addressed for you that I got the turbo in ?
cheers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 17:46
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 17:46
Yes I did read it thanks. I have decided not to turbo and sell
mine and update it. Good read though sounds like it will serve you
well. Hopefully you wont have any of the issues I was told about. That as
well as age was what made my mind up to update and also want some thing now more on the comfort side. I justg hope what ever I get serves me as
well as what the old hilux has. Will be sad to see it go but wont miss the lack of power. Hope all goes
well with yours in the future. Got two blokes lined up waiting to get
mine cause they know how
well it has been looked after but there not getting there grubby mitts on it till Ive got my new one. I dont think I will want to see it after they have had it. I could imagine the state of it. Steve M
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 21:26
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 21:26
Fair enough, I Would also like to update around the 2000` model, but I have done so much to my truck and it still looks good .When people say is that a 96` or 97 model simply because I have updated the front grill, lights anbd bullbar , they`re stunned when I say 89`.
what stops me updating is trying to pay a house off.
But they`re worth every penny, and you won`t have any trouble selling yours.
cheers
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Reply By: Member - Hughesy (SA) - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 14:36
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 14:36
Have the same issue with my 100 series. The Lovells springs are made slightly higher on the drivers side and when the vehicle is unladen even with me in it you can notice the lean to the passenger side........I'll just have to eat twice as much chocolate at
easter to even it up ;)
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 15:19
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 15:19
Thanks hughesy,
I had lovells leaf springs many years ago on an FJ40 SWB Cruiser, funny thing is that I can still remember it was leaning also.
And at the time I said to myself I must have twisted the chassis.
I think these spring builders over do the driver side to allow for sagging over time.
And then when they finally level out it will be time to get new springs anyway ?
cheers.
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Reply By: Eric Experience - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 15:21
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 15:21
To determine which spring is faulty, measure the exact center of the front and back axles, then using a piece off angle iron as a pivot on a trolley jack lift the back axle in the center if the front sits ok then its the rear thats faulty, then repeat lifting the front.
too easy. Eric.
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 16:14
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 16:14
Thanks Eric,
I`m right on to it now.
See what I find.
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Follow Up By: mrbasilbrush - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 22:25
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 22:25
Thanks Eric,
I parked it in the garage for a level surface, and found the rear springs with a slight lean also.
So decided to swap the rear springs, as they are the same.
Well, it made a significant difference to the front .
Have now only 10-15mm lean, much happier.
CHEERS.
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Reply By: acdc - Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 18:00
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007 at 18:00
mrbasilbrush,
A common problem on leaf sprung Hilux's, the spring pads on the diff housing bend or buckle, so when you tighten the u bolts you are actually bending the spring banana shape over the mounting pad, loosen your u bolts and then see if it sits level!
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